If you could push a button and simply cease to exist, would you press it?

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this is reminding me of a Raymond Smullyan story

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

... and the realization that i was tempted to end it all, except for the fact that i didn't want to hurt anyone else, was itself realization enough that i didn't really want it to be over.

xp to myself

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

isn't the M*A*S*H theme song about this thread?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)

would be a null issue to you the you who no longer and never existed.

Second nail in the coffin of my putative goole crush. Surely you'll grant that living or alive, you mean no harm to your closest? Yes, you won't care one way or another, but you'd die knowing you flaked on your beloveds.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Or what goole said to himself

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

if you could push a button and you'd cease to exist on ILX, would you do it?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

I think the button would be more tantalizing if it was a re-set button that randomly turned you into someone different; age, race, gender, orientation, taste, location, era... "Fancy your chances, eh?"

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

it'd make a political career a little easier

xp

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

now singing 'pieces of goole' to the tune of the cure's pictures of you

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

if you could push a button and you'd cease to exist on ILX, would you do it?

Pity the poor souls for whom that button is merely 'Submit Post'.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

if you could push a button and become bob marley, would you?
-bob marley

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

what about if you could push a button and the button ceased to exist?

borscht and bikinis (how's life), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

"people who have suffered losses which they feel they cannot bear"

this is interesting, because the statement isn't connected to whether the person can or cannot bear the loss, but rather their perception of their ability to bear the loss and how that perception becomes reality

it is particularly interesting in the context of our current round of political theater, where the demeanor of our candidates appears to be more important than the positions they take; you could use both to extrapolate an argument that questions the actual existence of "facts"

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

An Unfortunate Dualist

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKbpjw3_EZM

Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

aero very much otm 8 million posts back on this freight train of a thread

Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

what if to the world it looked like you ceased to exist, but to you it looked like the rest of the world ceased and you're in the void, alone with only your own thoughts?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

this is interesting, because the statement isn't connected to whether the person can or cannot bear the loss, but rather their perception of their ability to bear the loss and how that perception becomes reality

well - the concept of being able to bear something is entirely subjective. strictly speaking, anybody can bear anything that won't literally kill them. the question is whether the thing in question makes that person's life feel as though it is not worth living.

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

and you're in the void, alone with only your own thoughts?

This reminds me of Borges' desert 'labyrinth'.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

well - the concept of being able to bear something is entirely subjective. strictly speaking, anybody can bear anything that won't literally kill them. the question is whether the thing in question makes that person's life feel as though it is not worth living.

on a daily basis, American society makes me feel like life isn't worth living; however, because I am an egotistical, contrary bastard, this just makes me want to live forever so I can continue to sneer at it

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ posts by people who have figured out how to live imo

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

How many of you would want a button that lets you nap instantly? because you'd just need to put some duct tape over that button...

Philip Nunez, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

holy fuck DJP I just noticed your display name and it has literally improved my will to live, thank you

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I'm not leaving this world without shitting on a few dozen more people

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

most of my worldview is a strange mishmash of "Do not go gentle into that good night", "Fight" by The Cure and "Kerosene" by Big Black, with occasional dashes of "I Wanna Fuck You in the Ass" by The Outhere Brothers

no fucking way am I touching that button

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

because I am an egotistical, contrary bastard, this just makes me want to live forever so I can continue to sneer at it

This is my rearguard answer to the Camus question

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

djp otm - cf: goole spraying the faces of those he loves

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

also i misread alfred's comment as 'shitting OUT a few more dozen people' lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

I Want To Spray You In The Face

乒乓, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

I'm merely hoping that button consists of an inadvertant OD of morphine when I'm 92 or whatever.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

can i ask to have something clarified about the button?

"and no emotional or financial or other repercussions to the people around you." -- how precisely is this magic effected?

is it numbness? all others who have any relation to you at all register your sudden disappearance but find they just don't feel anything one way or another (this seems tyrannical and monstrous to me btw)

is it forgetting? their minds and institutional records are wiped, any debts are written off as an accounting mistake, memories of you come up blank, etc. you become a hole, but one so complete there's no pain to be felt.

is it rewriting history? ie the "it's a wonderful life" option. the clock is rewound. i suppose this is the most attractive option if you want to hit it.

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

haha i was just trying to fuck with dog latin's un-trolly rosy option, i don't want bits of me anywhere thx

tho i have joked that when i die i want to be cremated and have my ashes sprinkled in the food of people i didn't like.

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

(the unspoken, disappointed egotistical optimist component of my cynicism is the not-so-hidden hope that some day my sneering will cause society not to suck so much)

i suppose this is the most attractive option if you want to hit it.

and it's off to the out of context thread we go

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

basically I won't push any button ending my life unless I can push a button that keeps Alicia Keys from singing another note.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

everyone you knew is instantly granted religious certainty that you are with God. they all become believers of the hardest core and are glad that you have gone home. several of them become priests

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

very powerful button, this button

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

don't hit that button man! do not want!

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

goole flakes!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

would now be a bad time to reveal that I have been mentally replacing the word "button" with "clitoris" as I read this thread

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

loooooool

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

aero i already expect my death to send several into a nunnery, you're not telling me anything here

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

i've been saying "in bed" the whole time too

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

would now be a bad time to reveal that I have been mentally replacing the word "button" with "clitoris" as I read this thread

no, but it would be a better time to admit that "anus" was also in play HELL YES DO YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE.

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)

http://catholic-magazine.excerptsofinri.com/images/nuns.jpg

sisters of the blessed goole (rip)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

if you could push my nuts and simply caused Alicia Keys to disappear, I will make waffles and mimosas for you the rest of our lives until you push another button and make me disappear

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

everyone you knew is instantly granted religious certainty that you are with God. they all become believers of the hardest core and are glad that you have gone home. several of them become priests

you know what, as long as we're talking about the magisterium here: what if everyone is granted the righteous satisfaction that you are in hell? (this is what is supposed to happen now afaik)

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

if you could push a button into my anus I would sing like Morten Harket.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

when I'm hungry I eat

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

thread delivers

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

thread pushes buttons

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)


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