If you could push a button and simply cease to exist, would you press it?

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guys, every fucking day is a gift and it's insane to me that any of you think nothing is preferable to EVERYTHING so I'm just going to detail how awesome my life is and completely ignore that my experience of life is nothing like other people's, go me

emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

emil.y otm, congratulations forks on your great life

WmC, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

awesome? sounds like way too much hard work to me.

pandemic, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

yup

Iago Galdston, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

Not enough napping imo.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Where are the naps!?

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

I assume it's after the sex

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

I'm still back on how the person he loves dearly but has to break up with is not the same person he's going to have sex with?

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

lol

flopson, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

oh, forks, you casanova

flopson, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

A quiz:

"I generally enjoy life and am able to find meaning in things that sustain me and make me want to continue existing" => "Every day is a gift"

"I don't generally enjoy life and I have a hard time finding meaning in anything and just being in my skin is hugely taxing" => ??????

Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

I might be doing dating wrong!

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, serious kudos to anyone who legit feels like every day is a gift, but try to understand why other people might not share your outlook.

Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY3bcc-cKwo

emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

if you aren't breaking up with your beloved during the maestro of tabla, you might as well button yourself

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

I thought it was the same girl he was going to have sex with but that he was gonna break up with her the day after the sex.
xp

pandemic, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

i grew up on a cow farm in a small rural southern town and then threw my bread on the water and decided to go to a major metropolitan city with one suitcase and $1000 bucks in the bank. I then had a series of deep horrible disappointments and crippling bouts of depression that lasted about six years
so not everything is great or has been easy or gone reasonably and while i'm deeply proud and happy with my life, it's the product of a great deal of hard work and effort and OCD tendencies and constant crushing failures and self-doubt. i dunno if it's "awesome" necessarily but trust me when i tell you that anybody who's privileged enough to have the time/tech/education to be contributing on this thread can find a level of joy in life that improves on "let's press a button and make it all go away" even if it requires medication/therapy/disappointment and sadness to achieve
and yes, the naps are after the sex

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

is 'throwing bread on water' pottery slang

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

wow it's so crazy how everyone is giving subjective answers when the question asks your opinion

anyway the more I think about it, the more I think this question was designed to make us all WANT to push the fucking button by the end of this thread.

push it, don't push it, but don't belittle people for sharing their opinion. forks has a madcap life, and he wants to share, he's a positive dude by nature, good on him for feeling that way. because it's HIS bloody life, he can do what he wants. i go to work, I come home, I exercise, I sleep. that doesn't make my feelings about button pushing more or less valid.

we're all snowflakes etc

*unbookmark thread*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

"Trust me when I tell you that your experiences are completely irrelevant because I've had some experiences myself"

emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

http://bible.cc/ecclesiastes/11-1.htm

emily, i got no idea why you think i'm preaching any other message than life is beautiful but coolio

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's a little more complicated than "my life sux y/n" b/c the act of eliminating oneself suggests a definitive decision that "my life cannot get any better"

Surely I'd press the button if I became seriously and irretrievably disabled, but it does make me sad to read that abled, employed computer-owners would rather terminate their lives consequence-free rather than consider a new life as a bike courier or a champion spaghetti eater or something

Not putting words in anybody's mouth or projecting. I've had serious phases of incredible depression and low-self esteem and it makes me sad to read that ILXors I respect would even consider this as a possibility, like, I will cook for you the rest of your life if you'd stick around. I hope nobody feels belittled in me saying this

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

Ahh but see I guess I'm missing the point already, this is now about "me" and "my feelings" instead. It really is a "life is pain y/n" Q, isn't it

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

yo forks i love that post
& i love that the museums & djing girls of life are multiples

*buffs lens* (schlump), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

ew, soggy bread

Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

This is about "would you push the button?" The answer "yes" appears to lead people to tell you about their sex lives in order to somehow impress upon you that life is amazing. Not really sure how that one works.

emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Part of the joy of life is the things we learn and the memories we make, and choosing to eliminate yourself from history robs those who know you of every thought or memory about you. That might not be pain, but it still may be a huge deficit.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

I don't understand the question

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure this thread is a joy to read for a currently-disabled person.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

god i love ilx

surm, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

if i cd push a button and be an invisible ghost that cd travel anywhere in space forever but only observe i'd think about that one

picking up on bits in the thread n not really following properly cos on phone, but this intrigues me. Can envisage it being a dreadful curse:

Me only cruel immortality
Consumes: I wither slowly in thine arms,

Here at the quiet limit of the world,
A white-haired shadow roaming like a dream

The ever-silent spaces of the East,
Far-folded mists, and gleaming halls of morn.

Fizzles, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

wait so is WCC part of aphex twin or not

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

em: weird to me that on the thirty things i'm doing right now, you feel like my sex life is the one i wanna talk about? especially when i just linked to a whole thread about my throwing pottery? sex is part of my life but it's not a more dominant force (or at least i try not to let it be) than that of a dozen other drives. real talk: none of that screed is BRAGGIN, it's simply a moment where i compare what my next three days are to not existing and that's such a shitty equation. it's not meant to be instructive. i'm just talking to myself.
anyways. off.

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

if i cd push a button and be an invisible ghost that cd travel anywhere in space forever but only observe i'd think about that one

this one i'd probably end up pushing, though it depends on whether my conscience retains human emotion

ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

this sortof breaks my imagination im trapped in thinking from here and cant hypothesise myself into the imaginary space of this question, maybe im a massive narcissist. and anyway i don't want to have never tasted sushi fallen asleep on a bus or punched in the face or held hands with someone or you know so many endless things, waking up in warm sunlight etc etc etc

plax (ico), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

shit yeah omniscience vs experience is a much more interesting and difficult question for me than the original premise here

ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

I can't reconcile forks' description of his life with forks' level of progress in Tokyo Jungle.

JimD, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Part of the joy of life is the things we learn and the memories we make, and choosing to eliminate yourself from history robs those who know you of every thought or memory about you.

And part of the shit of it is, for example, watching my grandmother, with advanced Alzheimers, lose every single one of those memories, more of them every day. She doesn't know who she is, who anyone else is, where she is, or much of anything else. She doesn't remember the word for "sandwich." She doesn't know how to eat tater tots. She can't remember whether she just went to the bathroom or not, and when she does, she doesn't understand what the toilet is for. What a joy!

Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

lmao xp

flopson, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Yo plax: at some point you won't know you did those things, and you won't miss them, because you won't have any intentional state at all. Button-pushing, that just speeds up that process. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REGRET PUSHING THE BUTTON. It is very possible to regret not pushing it. ERGO, push that shiz.

emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

regret ain't so bad

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

itt: between grief and nothing, will you take grief

*buffs lens* (schlump), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

forks how dare u, don't you know that relating yr experiences/pov is an attack on all others.

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

I thought that was from Ferris Bueller lol

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

And part of the shit of it is, for example, watching my grandmother, with advanced Alzheimers, lose every single one of those memories, more of them every day. She doesn't know who she is, who anyone else is, where she is, or much of anything else. She doesn't remember the word for "sandwich." She doesn't know how to eat tater tots. She can't remember whether she just went to the bathroom or not, and when she does, she doesn't understand what the toilet is for. What a joy!

― Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Friday, October 12, 2012 1:19 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If/when I get to this point I hope to either have it together enough to take matters into my own hands or have loved ones with whom I've discussed the issue and will do it for me.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Yo plax: at some point you won't know you did those things, and you won't miss them, because you won't have any intentional state at all. Button-pushing, that just speeds up that process. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REGRET PUSHING THE BUTTON. It is very possible to regret not pushing it. ERGO, push that shiz.

― emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:22 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the thing though its not about regret or missing or longing or yearning. whats interesting about this question is how time is structured. its about undoing the past as future. i wish i had never been born. every tiny fragment of pleasure.

plax (ico), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

If I cease to exist in this scenario, does my dad still have the orgasm from which I sprung? Wouldn't want to deny the guy that tiny fragment of pleasure.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

forks how dare u, don't you know that relating yr experiences/pov is an attack on all others.

― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, October 12, 2012 5:28 PM

implicitly it is tho

i have known ppl who lead lives seemingly even more fulfilling, vital and relevant than forks', who evidently didn't feel as fulfilled, vital or relevant as forks purports to be

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

yeah this is really about the internal life, not the external facts of how you spend your day, which is the real problem with forks's post (aside from the question of how the hell this presumptuous fucker KNOWS he's getting laid tonight!?). i'm grateful for the good fortune of being born in the time & place i was and the material benefits of that, but more than that i'm grateful for the disposition or brain chemistry or whatever to be able to enjoy it -- many people have had more and been far unhappier.

some dude, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link


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