If you could push a button and simply cease to exist, would you press it?

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Our parents and teachers would recognize our sudden precocity and bump us ahead to college. Then we'd spend the rest of adolescence inexplicably failing to develop any further, plummet into depression, finally request the button-man to undo the do-over.

jim, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

^ thought that has occurred to me manys the time when musing on the 'back to my teenage body' thing

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

It's interesting, the liminality that these conversations create, to both exist and not-exist, to be an adult and also a child, to eat an oyster and also a pizza

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

lj??

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

I'm afraid of not existing. OP doesn't strike me as narcissistic...seems kind of enviable to be able to think about something so huge as not existing and being of no consequence to others and just hit the button and be gone. Because that's not something you do on the spur of the moment when you've stubbed your toe on the kitchen table for the 20th time. That's a thought you've been staring down for a long time and hitting that button would be pretty, well I dunno if brave is the right word but that's how it seems to me.

Sometimes I wonder if my fear of not existing is a denial of a deep dark wish that I didn't exist. And now I have a headache.

(Also this thread delivered everything I thought it would, and in record time. You guys are getting GOOD at this, lol)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

i dont think there's anything brave at all about hitting the button

ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

thinking out loud, is all

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Don't care if it's brave, I'm hitting that button. Give it to me.

emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes existence seems like a useless burden but other times i probably foolishly believe i have something like a "purpose" so voted no

crisp apple morning (clouds), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

lj??

― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:43 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if he meant the oyster to be on the pizza I'm sure he'd have said

Yeah, bravery and cowardice are kinda nonsensical concepts wrt this scenario. Inasmuch as it seems like a decision that's pointedly uninformed by ego (to the extent that we're positing that you'd just be forgotten, or that the cessation of your existence would at least not cause any pain).

FWIW, I'm totally looking forward to the day when this scenario no longer seems at all appealing.

Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

jesus what a depressing thread

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

Surprise?

Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

The last time I felt like this I was drunk and maudlin and "oh what's the use, what is the fucking point?" I think at one point I said out loud "I wish I was a hovercraft" or something equally ridiculous. It was a very strange thing to feel and say - I don't know why it came over me that point cos I def don't feel this way 99.999% of the time, even if I'm feeling really low and everything's going to pot.

where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

if only the Duchess of York had been around at the time, you could have starred in a delightful children's book by now

haha

where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

"I wish I was a hovercraft" lol

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

I guess i can't comment on this thread because although I've often contemplated the possibility of erasing my existence without harming anyone else, it was always in the context of suicidal thoughts or just depression or whatever.

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

also - "Pretend it would involve no physical pain to yourself, and no emotional or financial or other repercussions to the people around you. - these are all things directly related to suicide. the question is basically like "pretend you could commit suicide the repercussions of suicide. however, don't mention suicide."

guess i'm being small-minded about this, sorry.

(i too am in favor of letting threads develop organically. lord knows i've started plenty of threads with absurd questions that were luckily saved by other people bending the conversation in a direction that was more interesting for them)

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

ugh, as usual i left out important words and i suck. that should have been "pretend you could commit suicide WITHOUT the repercussions of suicide. however, don't mention suicide."

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

guys, every fucking day is a gift and it's insane to me that any of you think nothing is preferable to EVERYTHING
and now i'm going to take a shower and go to a museum and then go to a cocktail tasting and then see an ilxor and a bunch of other guys perform live music and then go see a woman i'm dating DJ at another museum (not the first museum) and then we're going to go out and have a nice meal and then go home and have sex and sleep and then I'll get up and throw some pottery and then watch the thursday NFL game on tivo that I couldn't watch because I was out at a job interview where i was promised more work and then went to my OTHER pottery class and then went to a big society event food and wine tasting with a gal DJ (not the first gal DJ) and after I'm done with the NFL game while I do some work I'll go to see a maestro of indian tabla and likely have to break up with a woman i love dearly but that i just don't see working out and then I'll go see a series of short films about the Spanish labor movement and then go to the Ukrainian House and eat pickles and watch more music and then i'm going to KEEP FUCKING DOING THIS UNTIL I DIE and rushing that moment is completely beyond my comprehension and although much of life is very sad a great deal more of it is too sweet to even express

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

i should note that i am also fat and hate myself but hey, can't have everything

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

and then I'll get up and throw some pottery

is this a euphemism

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

I'll go see a series of short films about the Spanish labor movement

what films?

Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

good post forks. feel like this concept is particularly appealing to british ppl for some reason?

flopson, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

also forks otm life feels great + the good is way better than any bad, tho i understand not everyone might feel that way

Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

if there was a button the british could push that would instantly undo literally centuries of brutal horrific worldwide bloodsoaked imperialism and colonialism would they push it?

乒乓, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

super cool. plz tell how it is

Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Let's say you have a son or daughter who is five. If you press the button, do they also cease to exist? Or were they born of immaculate conception?

Eventually we all will be forgotten to time, why be hasty about it.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

guys, every fucking day is a gift and it's insane to me that any of you think nothing is preferable to EVERYTHING so I'm just going to detail how awesome my life is and completely ignore that my experience of life is nothing like other people's, go me

emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

emil.y otm, congratulations forks on your great life

WmC, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

awesome? sounds like way too much hard work to me.

pandemic, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

yup

Iago Galdston, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

Not enough napping imo.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Where are the naps!?

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

I assume it's after the sex

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

I'm still back on how the person he loves dearly but has to break up with is not the same person he's going to have sex with?

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

lol

flopson, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

oh, forks, you casanova

flopson, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

A quiz:

"I generally enjoy life and am able to find meaning in things that sustain me and make me want to continue existing" => "Every day is a gift"

"I don't generally enjoy life and I have a hard time finding meaning in anything and just being in my skin is hugely taxing" => ??????

Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

I might be doing dating wrong!

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, serious kudos to anyone who legit feels like every day is a gift, but try to understand why other people might not share your outlook.

Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY3bcc-cKwo

emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

if you aren't breaking up with your beloved during the maestro of tabla, you might as well button yourself

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

I thought it was the same girl he was going to have sex with but that he was gonna break up with her the day after the sex.
xp

pandemic, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

i grew up on a cow farm in a small rural southern town and then threw my bread on the water and decided to go to a major metropolitan city with one suitcase and $1000 bucks in the bank. I then had a series of deep horrible disappointments and crippling bouts of depression that lasted about six years
so not everything is great or has been easy or gone reasonably and while i'm deeply proud and happy with my life, it's the product of a great deal of hard work and effort and OCD tendencies and constant crushing failures and self-doubt. i dunno if it's "awesome" necessarily but trust me when i tell you that anybody who's privileged enough to have the time/tech/education to be contributing on this thread can find a level of joy in life that improves on "let's press a button and make it all go away" even if it requires medication/therapy/disappointment and sadness to achieve
and yes, the naps are after the sex

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

is 'throwing bread on water' pottery slang

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

wow it's so crazy how everyone is giving subjective answers when the question asks your opinion

anyway the more I think about it, the more I think this question was designed to make us all WANT to push the fucking button by the end of this thread.

push it, don't push it, but don't belittle people for sharing their opinion. forks has a madcap life, and he wants to share, he's a positive dude by nature, good on him for feeling that way. because it's HIS bloody life, he can do what he wants. i go to work, I come home, I exercise, I sleep. that doesn't make my feelings about button pushing more or less valid.

we're all snowflakes etc

*unbookmark thread*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link


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