If you could push a button and simply cease to exist, would you press it?

If a thread-starter asks a question which is "do you prefer red or blue?" you don't get to walk into a thread and declare that actually red is yellow for the purposes of this question and claim "ooh, death of the author."

Especially if that means drawing dubious psychological conclusions about what it means for anyone on the thread who chose "yellow" (when they actually chose red.)

i'm sure i've had a lot of times when i'd've pressed it, maybe. i think i'd've been wrong. (inasmuch as i can speak for an i that isn't me, now - complications!)

but to go back to something else i thought upthread, i think i'd be comfortable with a consequence-less removal from the world of other people as long as i cd go on experiencing, including experiencing that world, without belonging to it.

what if the thread-starter asks: 'if you could eliminate yellow or blue, which would you eliminate?' and someone declares that eliminating any one of those colors would also eliminate idk green (if i remember my primary and secondary colors correctly?) and then the thread starter said: "NO. ONLY ELIMINATING THOSE COLORS DON'T TELL ME HOW TO FEEL"

Thought experiment. Pretend any hypothetical situation in which you cause yourself to "simply cease to exist" can be discussed without ever referring to suicide.

maybe it's like that dr who thing where the crack in the wall eats you and then everyone forgets you ever existed.

'if you could eliminate yellow or blue, which would you eliminate?'

blue. man city. obvious.

Mordy, you're a total arsehole and I wish you would cease to exist. Or at least keep your unpleasantness off threads that I start. Can you please just go away and just not do this, for once?

If you can't do that, I'm going to ask for the thread to be locked, because I'm really, really sick of this.

Get over yourself.

I'm becoming completely serious, before you start with your "oh noes, women be being emotional" garbage again. Please just stop this.

always, always include a poll option that states ”YOUR OPTIONS DON'T INCLUDE MY PERSONAL CHOICE YOU THOUGHTFASCIST” is the key rule imo

WCC, any issue I have with you has nothing to do your gender.

fwiw, I don't really have an issue with you except that you love to escalate ILX arguments. I don't even have a problem with that tho! Go with god.

also lol @ *my* women are being emotional garbage. i've never said that. but when did you stop beating your inappropriate work crush?

Seriously tempted right now to push a button so that this discussion could cease to exist.

i'm trying to decide which of mordy's "texts" most warrants a flagging.

MATT DC otm this tiresome crap has to stop.

quite.

i don't think i said anything warranting a flag post itt, but do what you've gotta do xxp

I'm on my phone can someone post a .gif of Michael Jackson eating popcorn, thank you in advance

I love this "I'm not even being a dick to you!" faux-innocent act followed by immediately being a massive dick.

Matt, please can you lock the thread. I'm deeply tired of this.

deeply

Yeah, from my perspective, I answered the question, thanks WCC for clarifying it had nothing to do with that wiki link, and any discussion seems to be hidebound by some bloke almost making a point then being quite nasty in the next breath...

mordy engaged with the thread sincerely and in good faith, and then was told he couldn't use the S-word

literally all the bullshit happened after someone tried to control how people interpreted the question.

i think he was asked not to use it, but it seemed v. important to him to ignore that request

look, Dolphins. aren't they adorable?

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/dolphins-poster-l.jpg

and why was that wrong? WCC said/clarified it wasn't about S, and I would have asked for further clarification but then, etc.

xposts render this incomprehensible, but in before lock.

being told not to use the S word, I mean.

stop mansplaining y'all, mordy is a misogynist and the question can only be discussed on the terms defined by the thread starter, *locks ilx*

There are plenty of other threads if people want to talk about suicide. OG asked for people not to do so in this thread, which is about something different. That's fair enough - I have done and will continue to ask people not to derail my own threads if I feel discussion goes AWOL. Maybe reinforcement of thread intention could have been done more diplomatically, but it didn't warrant the reaction that followed.

darragh don't be a dick.

i think mordy was fine here until he referenced an unrelated thread as a snipe. i dunno though, i'm a pretty big fan of letting conversations evolve organically

yes, that was unfair + mean of me to bring in an unrelated thread. i apologize for that. i was just annoyed at being called names w/out having done anything to deserve it. it was childish.

suicide was such a totally inevitable subject itt that it would've been wise to announce that the intention was take that word out of the equation from the beginning. although i still have no idea how that would actually work. any imaginary sci-fi scenario is going to evoke the closest real world analog.

can't believe someone misinterpreted this thread title as being about suicide. it's about *not existing* anymore you guys, *not* suicide, there's a big diff

button's function not well enough specified. so no will not press it.

The Barthes reference struck me as being intensely rude (and also not relevent, as this is, as pointed out, a discussion rather than a static work); unless it was some kind of high-fallutin' meta-joke about the OG being wiped from existence with no consequence. Which I doubt.

actually, that was the joke.

i'm glad someone got it, even if comedy is unnatural and abhorrent.

It was a bloody long punchline!

fwiw the OP is complaining about me by name on their twitter account. i guess i get to join the club.

you should retweet

guilty of being a dick SM, but eh that's what happened. Nobody owns threads, suicide wasn't a huge intangential leap.

done xp

Oh, I had that happen before too! Fun, huh?

I'm presuming there isn't actually going to be any further discussion of the original thread premise...

i'd press the button now, yeah

I'm happy to keep discussing the original thread. But suicide is an unavoidable topic here. I'm not sure why it's been ruled out.

*original thread premise