Community, the tv show

I watched maybe the first 3 episodes of HIMYM and was basically annoyed that they were wasting Allyson Hannigan and Neil Patrick Harris on some unfunny horsehit that was going to go off the air in 6 weeks; then I blinked and SEVEN YEARS went by and ppl were talking about how it was the funniest thing ever

xp: Square Pegs was awesome

Oh yeah, Jami Gertz was Mark Addy's wife on that one show.

Still Standing, DJP.

Yeah, that one. #enougheps4syndication

how i met your mother is a better show than community

oh lol I had no idea, I avoided "Still Standing" like the plague

I wouldn't say HIMYM is the funniest ever, but it hits a sweet spot between straight-up multicamera laffery and something like Community that rewards long-time viewers. Plus, it still has the ability to pleasantly surprise (the arc with Marshall's dad's death was legitimately affecting).

i'm not trying to defend HIMYM or Modern Family too much in this thread, though I do enjoy both of them. I'm asking a serious question though - is there a currently existing viable sitcom model for NBC to actually follow without following the lead of Chuck Lorre? granted - i'm just as guilty as you guys - all my favorite sitcoms are the ones America doesn't give a crap about

i do gotta give ABC credit for trying to do some interesting stuff like Happy Endings or even The Middle or Suburgatory, but I'm skeptical those will ever blossom into network leading hits, as they are too "weird"

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As you should have.

Happy Endings is wonderfully weird and insane, no quotes

I did a few seasons of HIMYM but I guess I kind of got tired of it? Mostly Radnoor's emo sadsackery, lol. I'd like to revisit one day, maybe *shrug*

is there a currently existing viable sitcom model for NBC to actually follow without following the lead of Chuck Lorre?

The Seth MacFarlane model? These would be two strong arguments against models.

I don't really see a point in picking between the NBC critical darlings and the ABC critical darlings; they're all really, really funny shows. CBS is really the place where terrible sitcoms live, and even there I get and enjoy most of the humor fueling BBT.

Yeah, Radnor (or his character, tbf) is kinda HIMYM's universally-acknowledged weak link. He does get less intolerable as the show progresses, fwiw.

tbh i'm ok with the Seth McFarlane model, but as it barely works as is, i wouldn't recommend it to NBC

HIMYM was way better when they acknowledged Ted being a douche, and whenever he had less focus on the show

CBS is #1 by a landslide in sitcom ratings right? but HIMYM is a definite exception to their lineup which mostly mediocre/crap stuff like Terms of Engagement. Poor David Krumholtz.

2 Broke Girls + BBT + (to a lesser extent now) 2.5 Men are the heavy hitters. HIMYM and Mike and Molly do very well. Partners only got a 2.2 last night, which is bad news for it. On NBC that would be a smashing success.

2 Broke Girls is the worst thing in the world

you're kidding me - 2 Broke Girls is a smash hit? I honestly had no idea

Depressing but unsurprising. It's so LCD. It's of a piece with that string of awful sitcoms NBC parked between Friends and Seinfeld in the '90s.

Or after Seinfeld, even. Must See TV wasn't so Must See even back then.

NBC Thursday night lineup history

Union Square is the show that immediately came to mind. Couldn't remember the name off the top of my head.

oh god UNION SQUARE

2 Broke Girls isn't just bad, it's actually offensively bad. And not just to good taste, like the overt racism is just 0_0

What if they brought back the NBC Thursday Night Movie?

I liked Good Morning, Miami btw.

Cosby Show, Family Ties, Cheers. Done and done

And not just to good taste, like the overt racism is just 0_0

They make a lot of rape jokes too, it's so edgy.

I've watched a total of five minutes of 2 Broke Girls and that was enough to ensure I will never of my own free will watch it again; nothing should EVER make you pine for Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist

hahah DJP otfm

I wonder how pissed the suits are at NBC that CBS got 2BG and they got stuck with Whitney.

strange no one's mentioned fox's live action shows, all of which (afaict, i've only seen commercials) are single-camera non-laugh track shows. if mindy project and ben and kate can catch on, at least. ABC's only multi-cam show is last man standing.

that is the model for NBC, maybe. it seems like they want to ignore the other two networks that have successful (if less funny/'intelligent'/'creative') single-cam shows and shoot for CBS numbers.

what the fuck is rules of engagement and how is it on its sixth season btw

SEVENTH! i mentioned this on an SNL thread recently but David Spade has had one sitcom or another on network primetime for 16 seasons straight now o_O

oh lol i remember seeing a promo for a new david spade show but i thought that was maybe last year at the earliest

So far this season New Girl is the best sitcom.

yeah rules of engagement has been sticking around for several years by being an option cbs has plugged in whenever there's a hole in their schedule. it's been on for seven seasons but i believe last season was the first season where they actually started it in the fall and gave it it's own scheduled time. granted it was on saturday nights in some admirable attempt at bringing original programming back to saturdays but i think they scrapped that plan and moved it somewhere else as soon as there was a hole in their programming. did spade jump to 8 ways to fuck my daughter immediately after whenever just shoot me died? crazy to think he's managed that. plus if he jumped right from snl to just shoot me (which i think he did) then he's had a steady network tv gig for around twenty years. david fucking spade.

rules of just shooting my teenage daughter

the david spade story

So glad we have the internet, sounds like network TV really sucks.

i did appreciate how new girl had hipsters on but didn't feel the need to do 'ugh hipsters' pat storyline and instead just treated them as young ppl, i don't think i could've handled the cognitive dissonance of zooey deschanel show mocking tumblr whites. really enjoying mindy project.

engagement is basically half to a third a good sitcom with Krumholtz and half to two thirds some really irritating b-plots with annoying people i don't care about.

wait not krumholtz i meant warburton. warburton delivers.

oh, and mindy project is good? saw the pilot and decided it would be awful. guess it picked up?

yeah, it's nothing i'd go testifying for but it's watchable, if you have any mindy kaling tolerance you'll be ok w/ it i'd imagine.

i'm still enjoying raising hope, though it feels like it's running out of gas a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LV7M_WeGX8

Haaaa. That kinda gives me hope. I'm looking forward to the 2015 season 4 premiere on nbc.com.

Sometimes I think Virtual Systems Analysis was kind of great.

Between this clip and 30 Rock it seems like everyone is getting their digs in regarding Animal Hospital.

Joel's been making digs at the delayed premiere on The Soup as well. He had Fred Willard on and after he left said "see Fred Willard on Community which will be premiering..." (looks at his phone) "someday!"

or something like that.