ILX running running thread

Long story short, had a fantastic race for 15 miles and was on pace for a 3:55. Then started getting dizzy, walked for a few seconds, ran again and suddenly everything on my lower body hurt. I managed to make it to mile 23 (my last mile took 20 mins!) Couldn't stand it anymore, so I DNF'ed near a train stop so I could get home. Totally content with my decision. My time would have been beyond shitty and I don't care about a medal. I just wanted to have an awesome race, and that wasn't going to happen at that point. Live to run another day.

I think I would have a v hard time being so even-tempered after putting in so much time and effort training.

disappointed for you man, but if you were suffering like that, and you've done one before, i think that was a great call.

the miles are still in the legs and maybe you can try again?

youll always be a winner to the running running thread jeff!

^^ loving the team support vibes.

Bad luck Jeff, that must be very disappointing. Once the wheels come off in a marathon there's nothing you can do really to get going again properly, so don't have any regrets about not finishing - I know you weren't there just to make it round. I blew up in my second marathon at around the same point and ended up walking to the end in a time of five hours plus. I gained very little from actually finishing, it was basically just a very long depressing walk! So you didn't miss much...

Any idea what went wrong? Pace, fluid, fuel or just had a bad day?

How are your legs today anyway, Ronan?

^^ loving the team support vibes.

apart from that i think that training at too high a pace is the other important pitfall. it's better to 'hold back' while training and work on stamina first and try increasing your speed once your endurance is up to scratch. 7 months after picking up running again, i still find myself starting my runs way too fast now and then. it's hard holding back when running starts feeling really good but i think it's key when you want to develop your stamina ánd speed (eventually).

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That's disappointing Jeff, I feel for you. Way to push on as best you could, but it sounds like you made the right call.

still can't really walk without pain. i worked from home today and cancelled another rehearsal. kind of worrying a little bit, not sure whether i should go to a physio or not. i kinda think they'll just say rest ice compression elevation or whatever, which is what I'm doing as far as possible.

really can't afford to miss another rehearsal, worried about when i'll next be able to run too.

running 23 miles is impressive. i can't even imagine what it feels like. there definitely is "a zone" at shorter distances. is the zone at mile 14 or 15 some truly higher plane?

i can walk again! maybe not run for a while tho, gotta be careful.

the miles are still in the legs and maybe you can try again?

Interesting you should say that... because I'm considering running the Indiana Monumental Marathon in 23 days. I'm not going to run at all until this coming weekend when I'll give an 8 or so mile run a go. If I feel good, I'm going to go for it.

nice

yes, good plan!

Been ruminating on this all week. After doing some research, I'm almost certain it was hypoglycemia. Symptoms are:

- Looking sallow/washed out - check (Carl said that I looked the worst she has ever seen when she met me on the train platform.)
- Sleepiness - check (Compounded by getting almost zero sleep the night before.)
- Dizziness - check (I was almost falling over.)
- Extreme fatigue - check
- Muscle weakness - check
- Slurred speech/difficulties speaking - check
- Problems concentrating - check
- Headaches - check
- Confusion - check

I hadn't been eating breakfast before all my long runs, so I continued that for marathon morning. But since the marathon started later than I would start my long runs, I just ran out of fuel just over 2 hours in. I had been eating energy chews the whole race, but since I started the race in a glycogen deficit, it was too little too late. I feel incredibly stupid for letting this happen, I should have foreseen this. It was a wasted opportunity of a great race with great weather.

Anyway, I'm almost 95% certain I'm signing up for the Indy Monumental Marathon in 3 weeks. I have zero soreness from the marathon attempt, so I'm just going to do a longish run this weekend and then just begin another taper.

that's the kind of thing you say you should have foreseen but it makes perfect sense not to foresee it.
i think i'm gonna sign up for a 5k on january 1. i was just lifting for a while because now i love lifting so much but tonight i did a nice 30 min run and it was fun. i even went uphill for a long time.

Feeling I should try some 5K's again. I always get a sick feeling in my stomach before them because I know it's just going to be 20 something minutes of pain.

yeah but that's why i decided against the half marathon, i can't make myself go slow enough in these things and it would be like 2+ hours of pain. my 29:59 even was so painful.

anyone planning to run in the bsim events in april?

thinking abt going on a v hilly ~12mile run today, havent gone that far in like a year, will prob suffer miserably, am def not in top form, also its unseasonably warm which does not suit me, and yet

Do it!

oh yeah im gonna dont u worry

ty 4 encouragement tho

I encourage all bad decisions.

haha

also i am slightly hung over

lil sore not too bad I went v slow

i signed up for 5k on 1/1/13

did 4 miles yesterday, first run since fucking up my feet two weeks ago, and all good so far. i had some pain after but it was only brief, feel fine today. will prob give myself another week before going out again just to be certain but overall feels sweet that i've only missed two weeks.

good for you!
started using a training scheme about two weeks ago. nice mix of endurance and 'increased pace' endurance runs with ánd without intervals, three days a week. i really enjoy the variation and hope this increases my "intrinsic speed" over the next few months.

What a clusterfuck with the NYC marathon...

Trying to come up with a goal for a half-marathon I'm running in January, so I can calculate some training paces. Current PR is 1:55:12 from a year and a half ago, which I should be able to easily beat. I've run as low as 1:49:XX in training runs. Maybe 1:45ish? May be a stretch.

sometimes i miss the meditative space distance running put me in but then i don't miss the aches and pains it would cause me.

im bout to go do some distance running over here

Get after it!

Had a couple of bad weeks at end of Oct due to the demands of life but am getting back in. Loving the extra early-morning daylight afforded by Daylight Savings. I'm remembering why dawn is the best time to run, esp on trails in the middle of the woods.

I've started a run streak in order to get myself through this winter and go over 1000 miles for the year. Going on 7 days now. Of course it help that it is in the 60s in late November.

I ran outside for the first time in a week or so -- the morning fog was so refreshing! I also woke up at butt o'clock and had no excuse. Glad I went; it felt good. Would love to have a place to go in the middle of the woods, but I have to settle for dewy lakefront.

There are some great trails outside of the city, assuming you have a car. Wish I could get out to them more.

what shoes are you all on these days? thinking of buying a new pair as my current ones are starting to be a bit worn. is examining the heel a reliable way of assessing your gait? i originally got it analysed in the shop and judging by the heel (the outside is worn on both feet) i'm a supinator. from what i've read a neutral shoe is fine for supinators?

given it's just come up in the post above, do any of you do much trail running? quite like the idea of getting out to see some countryside.

For gait assessment I think examining just the heel is not enough. It's also the way you transfer your weight after you've landed on the heel that's important for determining what kind of correction/support you need from your footwear. I think almost every running shop has the opportunity to analyse gait so it'll be part of the buying process anyway.

I'm wearing Mizuno's, not sure about the model though. They're very light and the support is solid. I had to run them in a bit more than my previous pair (Saucony's), not sure if that's because of the shoes or me/my feet becoming less 'flexible' with age..

Got a beer mile this afternoon. I will destroy it. Or destroy myself trying.

Unofficially 8:49, which is 6 seconds than I ran last year. Not quite what I was looking for, but I'll take it. These are hard.

6 seconds faster.

Race time temp, 30 degrees.

Made it hard to open the can and difficult to chug.

Officially time was 8:44, 11th place. I wish we could have an ilx fap of a beer mile.

wait, was this drink a beer then run a mile? if so, good work jeff!

4 beers, 1 mile.