Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

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hey iatee watch these http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/as-candidate-obama-promised-to-raise-the-minimum

ya go find where I said 'Obama never said that'. I said it would have been a stupid use of political capital.

this is why it's a bad idea to get yr political news from buzzfeed

xxpost. I always saw it more like "If you don't extend my unemployment benefits, I'll end up like all those poor people making minimum wage." Good for the economy maybe, but stimulating the already stimulated.

It's probably because I was working for minimum wage at the time, and the papers were full of sob stories of people getting unemployment checks double anything I've ever earned.

lotsa people on unemployment get less than they would at a 40h min wage job.

iatee do u work or volunteer with the campaign? yr mad hacky. point is this was part of the inspiring hope rhetoric & it was bullshit.

maybe you shouldn't believe the hope changey shit then you can be less bitter afterwards

obama lied, zvookster cried

Obama didn't keep promises and maybe never intended to, but I don't think that's in the same ballpark as Romney's lying at the debate. Suddenly saying that your healthcare plan covers pre-existing conditions, and then having your campaign forced to concede that it doesn't the very next day, is flagrantly (and perhaps rightly) presuming that you can say whatever you want on the night and not enough people are going to pay attention the next day for it to matter.

It's really a shame that presidential candidates don't include a bunch of legislative caveats in all predictions about what they will do in office. But it's not comparable to what Romney is doing. Zvookster yr mad naive

so crushed that the president of america just turned out to be...a politician. he was black and he seemed nice I thought things were gonna be different :( :(

why didn't he press the minimum wage button on his desk

maybe nobody told him where it was

it's under the "buck stops here" sign

to clear up one point before I turn on the tv. In my state,(I just looked) unemployment max is less than double minimum wage, and unemployment min is tiny, so I must have seen reports from other more generous states.

romney: "I do have a plan that deals with people with pre-existing conditions." and he does, it's just pretty much the same one as exists before the ACA with some tweaks.

Zvookster you should talk to Romney's campaign spox cuz he thinks you're wrong

a classic iatee beef with an extra hefty dose of sneering condescension toward both fellow posters and the poor. A+ thread turn

not gonna deny the first part but I hope one day you'll be able to distinguish between 'we should push for policies based on their likelihood of helping the maximum amount of poor people' and 'I hate poor people'

I know they seem like v. similar statements but think it over

think there are pretty big differences between campaign promises you don't really intend to fight hard for, campaign promises you intend to fight hard for but are naive about being able to pass, and outright lies. first two to some degree describe a majority of obama 08 campaign (and 12 also but not as much), outright lies more frequent w/ romney 12 campaign imo. at the same time, as i believe the right would discover if romney were elected, i think there's plenty of the first two present in romney campaign also. i'm skeptical a democratic controlled senate is more likely to pass his medicare 'reform' than a gop senate was to pass bush's social security reform in 05.

lol I know iatee there is no point in doing this dance, you won't cop to what the clear purport of your sentiment even though it's quite clear, it's cool, vast/containing multitudes etc

Where is Obama’s Promised Minimum-Wage Hike?
by Ralph Nader

don't worry, someone is on this, gonna raise some consciousness

too busy shopping at the largest mall in Connecticut to form a real comeback but I think it's great that aero has learned to read between lines - pretty impressive catch this time and this newfound cynicism could represent some evolution in his political thought, maybe from now on he won't operate like a disappointed/confused puppy itt when American politics veers away from his view of this good and honest country.

i have a hot bit of urban density waiting for me in my bed so i'll say this

obama shills itt sounding like a buncha panto villains. i'm just waiting for someone to be told to put on some big boy pants.

I bought some for you at the mall

If any of y'all got relatives in Elgin, get them to vote for

Kerri Hoskins Branson, running for Kane County IL Board District 18.

http://kotaku.com/5949630/sonya-blade-is-running-for-the-county-board

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trading around on FB, and I shared it

xpost Hilarious, almost went out to Kane County today to a pumpkin patch. Maybe if she were signing pumpkins ...

The next two or three days need a suitably ridiculous Colbert-like name: "Pollocalypse Now."

Pollo Loco.

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"personal stories"

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/virginia-romney-poll-debate-bounce-obama.php?ref=fpb

Much of the improvement in Romney’s image is people going from hating Romney and voting for Obama to respecting Romney but still voting for Obama.

Yeah, sure, why not--I'd be okay with that.

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I'll let the rest of you force yourself to watch this "major foreign policy address" - I have bathrooms to clean, which strikes me as a far better use of my time.

With Foreign Policy Speech, Romney Runs for Obama’s Second Term

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/romney-obama-second-term/

https://twitter.com/joshromney/status/253688118744604672

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JENGA!

OOOH SEXY ROMNEY!

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/pew-romney-leads-by-4-in-post-debate-survey.php?ref=fpblg

Nothing to see here.

just one poll

swing state polls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> national polls

it's the second poll with romney ahead. but yeah, the national polls aren't very importart.

isn't the other poll rasmussen tho lol

both of those polls are what are known on the internet as skewed polls, and I only care about unskewed polls

iatee, SMC...just waiting for lagoon's reassurances now.

The other poll was PEW, who recently had Obama up by 8. Anyway, Gallup's much better: http://www.gallup.com/poll/154559/US-Presidential-Election-Center.aspx.