"Aliens" : Some nice effects, but actually kind've a crap film.

ALIENS RPG is coming! Done by Gearbox/Obsidian!

and FPS

i wish they'd make an aliens game that couldn't be summed up with three initials

:(

this is apparently the thread where we take sides about the first Alien sequel. I am firmly for it.

Ebert is great on it, actually... he gave it 3 1/2 stars and says it left him feeling wrung out and stressed and kind of upset. That's a sterling recommendation!

yeah, but most game genre names are now reduced to shorthand, same as everything else in modern culture. FPS/RPG/MMORPG/RTS/sim/etc.

What would you do in a Lucasarts-type adventure game, or an Aliens cart racer?

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anyone remember the first alien game? great tension and the most incredible feature of having the characters sometimes not respond to your commands - due them being in a biff wiv u

kingfish my point is that Alien was a new kind of movie - the game should be a new kind of game

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jg27paw4/yr13/yr13_49c.gif

looks like nethack

Never actually played the first AvP. Did play the Aliens game put out by Activision on the Apple ][.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28video_game%29

Holy shit, there was an Alien game for the 2600

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/Alien_1982_atari_2600.gif

But how was Alien a new kind of movie, tho? Just due to the nature of the Giger alien and the societal fears that each film could play off of? The first two films were a synthesis of a lot of different bits floating around; with the first one, you had the 70s blue-collar "truckers in space" thing, along with the "shit technology that looks lived-in and actually used" look that Ridley Scott admits that he borrowed from Star Wars, along with a more graphic horror look that Carpenter and everybody else was working on.

The 2nd one had the Reagan-era send-in-the-marines vibe with bits from Starship Troopers and the 80s corporate shill in the form of Paul Reiser of all people. (and no cat).

Still, inventing a new kind of game for a licensed property is a pretty damn tall order. Aspects of the experience that the consumer of the original properties/brands/texts/films/etc enjoyed have to transfer over, or the new thing doesn't ring true, and the vibe ain't there. It's like that 2600 game, or the Final Fantasy movie. The nature of the original experience dictates certain aspects of any other media claiming to be its descendent.

The alien in Aliens = Qaddafi

trust me kingfish, the "vibe" is not gonna be there for me if i play an alien RPG (experience points, "new skills" yada yada - i don't like RPGs in general though). i'll admit that an FPS is very very close to some of the most breath-catching scenes in alien, but it's not the whole movie! both alien and aliens consist of set pieces, each of which has to be solved/blasted through on its own terms, which makes me think more of a sui generis game like metal gear solid, which asks the player to confront entirely new situations - and use new controls - with each stage.

Well, probably not, but again, one of the fun aspects of each flick(like science fiction in any media can be) is that they reflect their times, and the various fears and hang-ups of different eras, from AIDS to cloning to whatever.

(i'm excepting the stupid AvP flick for this, even tho their a sequel coming out already)

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Dig it: Square even put out a game in 1987, with music from Nobuo Uematsu

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Alienssquare_screenshot_1.png

is that a naked woman with an electric guitar? Fucking sweet.

stop it

Dig it: Square even put out a game in 1987, with music from Nobuo Uematsu

!!!

what the fuck is "kind've"

there used to be this fps online ALIENS game where you were either a marine or an alien and played like 500 people online at the same time. it cost like 7.95 a month and totally kicked ass. i got totally stoned and played that many a night.

game over, man, game over

Alien 3 i sthe best film Fincher will ever direct and I suspect, if ever we see the 40 or so minutes cut, the best of the lot.
-- i, grey, Friday, April 13, 2007 7:31 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Link

A++ contrarianism, would be shocked to the core again

still prefer Resurrection over Aliens

chaki, are you thinking of Aliens Online?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Aliens_Online.jpg

yah that was it. i played the fuck out of that game. can't believe that was almost 10 yrs ago :( :( :(

so what was the latest AVP multiplayer game like? Any good?

what the fuck is "kind've"

something Alex shouldn't of written.

Watched this again yesterday for what has to be the fifth or sixth time in my life. I don't know if Alex In NYC is right or if I've just seen it too many times - it was good, but no longer great somehow. I was noticing all the sequences that go on a little long rather than just grooving on them, and oddly I wanted to see more of the aliens. Definitely too many false climaxes. But still, it holds my attention, and the sheer number of images it's burned into my brain really do make a case for classic status. A few things I'd like to call out for special praise:

* Hicks poking his head up into the ceiling, pointing his flashlight around, somehow not noticing the horde of aliens until the camera flips around and we see them just SWARMING forward, fabulous

* all of Hudson's other lines (especially his response to Ripley's pep talk about how Newt has survived all this time by herself with no weapons and no training: "Why don't you put her in charge?!")

* Bishop wedging his way down a pipe, with that great wide-angle shot of just his face

* ALL the beeping tracking devices, from the "see who's dead now" console in the tank to the "six meters...five meters!" radar to the "how close are we to Newt" gizmo - simple, dumb, brilliant way of amping up suspense. It must suck to work in the future where every utilitarian thing is sound-designed to make you more stressed out

* the emphasis on the acid-for-blood problem. I dunno, I just like the way they make it so that constantly, even blowing up an alien can mean killing off your own guys. Nice.

* "You always were an asshole, Gorman."

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5714/aliensfm4.jpg

no, i do not know these people

LIES

Those homemade Smart Guns are *magnificent*!

they are pretty impressively craf---HEY WAIT A MINUTE!

How exactly did I come up with "kind've"? 2004 -- dark times.

oooh look sega

It must suck to work in the future where every utilitarian thing is sound-designed to make you more stressed out

hee

This looks very interesting: Rejected Alien 3 script by William Gibson. I haven't read it yet.

that does look interesting. 'might have gone this way' scripts are fascinating. have just started on the rejected indiana jones 4 frank darabont number.

classic Challops in NYC thread

i've just been reading some of the v early star wars drafts, they are lol-tastic.

RANGER: The Bogan force is too strong upon us. Our spirit is broken.
...
DEAK:
You're feeling the Bogan's despair. Be strong, Tyree, drive it from your thoughts.
...
TROOPS: The Bogan! The Bogan!
...
VADER: You will come to know such suffering as only the Master of the Bogan Force can provide.

It's still mostly the best of the series. Mostly.