C/D LENA DUNHAM (THE DEFINITIVE POLL)

it was that thing that doesnt fit in the diff categories of ironic, whatever its called

it's not called "genuine"

It always amuses me when ppl critique the ridiculousness/banality of some of the lines/issues/characters on that show as if its something LD is unaware of and not deliberately commenting on

can we talk about that ironic scene in tiny furniture when she has sex w/ the guy in the drainpipe? wtf was that about?

whats the comment, that she hates her friends xp

i am now watching my third episode of 'girls'

and i mean fine maybe so, still doesnt make for a great tv show to watch, or even good art if shes being more ambitious, its not even insightful! real life people are more interesting than her characters

That's OK because you only have to spend 30 minutes with her characters 8 times per year, I spent almost twice as much time with real people last year.

It was notable I think as the season went along how ppl's opinions in the GIRLS thread became generally more positive, iirc there was some collective eye rolling at how it collected 500 posts almost all negative before there'd even been 2 episodes.

fair, i did not take into account the standard real/fake time ratio adjustment

i'll admit that if it got better later on, i wouldn't know. my parents tell me that newsradio has gotten really good - another show i similarly checked out on early in the run bc of how bad it was. and sorkin afaik has a penis!

iirc i was halfheartly defending it on the other thread but now i guess i dont like it

there's already a GIRLS thread for talking about GIRLS specifically and not just talking about idk Lena Dunham's zeitgeistyness though there was lots of weirdness at the start of that thread too (before the show premiered)

shes done two things that both have threads right

twelve minutes in, this show is really good, what the hell is wrong with people

^^^

anyway she seems kinda ok, only super noteworthy thing abt her is she is v young m/l, im unclear why everyone wants to talk abt her so much, tho i completely get why ilx wants to talk abt her so much

I am cautiously a fan based only on the show, haven't seen the movie, and I don't know why this poll exists, did something happen this month other than J0rdan read a year-old possibly racist travel piece nobody even bothered to link to?

the movie is p clearly better than the show

more importantly, did he find that possibly racist travel piece bc we were chatting about thisrecording on the grantland thread?

I am cautiously a fan based only on the show, haven't seen the movie, and I don't know why this poll exists, did something happen this month other than J0rdan read a year-old possibly racist travel piece nobody even bothered to link to?

― boxall, Friday, October 5, 2012 7:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

nope. classic jordan.

I'm not sure if her Japan piece is racist, it was too boring for me to finish (her "I can't imagine having sex with a native" line is pretty o_0 tho)

ilx home of high level cultural criticism

best place for cultural criticism on the internet - maybe anywhere?

tweeting-then-dancing scene pretty funny, pretty affecting

pretty funny, pretty affecting show

also the lady in the show has a belly, which is brave.

are you being ironic, i cant tell

well there is a $4 million+ bidding war for her book going on right now, so it def makes sense for j0rdan to start this poll now

"something is happening, and you don't know what it is..."

I am cautiously a fan based only on the show, haven't seen the movie, and I don't know why this poll exists, did something happen this month other than J0rdan read a year-old possibly racist travel piece nobody even bothered to link to?

― boxall, Friday, October 5, 2012 7:09 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

well there is a $4 million+ bidding war for her book going on right now, so it def makes sense for j0rdan to start this poll now

― (whose paintings looked like (pink) vaginas) (The Brainwasher), Friday, October 5, 2012 8:03 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

damn cant believe i only bid $3 million+

ilx fund drive

books r so expensive these days

the 3.6mil thing seems to come from a deadline.com story that doesn't name any sources? that is obviously a pretty ridiculous number if it is accurate, but it honestly just seems like too many digits

Hollywood Reporter does reporting and says the same thing, puts it in the context of Bossypants getting bought for $5 million.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/girls-creator-lena-dunham-gets-376861

Life fail if you know enough about this person to have an opinion.

Because there's no substance, artful context, quality, age, masculinity...

I just wanted to see if I could troll harder than Jordan. 5 minutes to butthurt eazy is a new record

I mean, truth be told, I don't watch enough TV to justify paying for HBO, so

whiney trolls so hard it's like oh my GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW

it's painful how out of the loop whiney is w/ contemporary culture

It's hard for me to imagine that what she does couldn't be done better by someone else, but thus far she seems to be the winner by default at ultra-realistically portraying her little millieux. I guess the ability to get out of the way of reality is a kind of talent. I don't love what she does but I don't hate it either. Wish there was a third voting button.

― has important things to say about gangnam style (Hurting 2), Friday, October 5, 2012 6:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm. to a certain extent she won the lottery, i don't think there's much of anything to distinguish her as a unique talent, comedically or artistically or whatever.

whiney, i think there's a lot of trolling yet to be done regarding lena dunham, and i think you may even be up to doing it. but if you want to troll w/ the big boys + girls you have to stop trying to troll ppl w/ these college-level 'lol you know about X,' 'lol you don't know about X' zings. i believe in u!!!

Yeah, I'm the king of butthurt on ILX.

whineys too confrontational to be a really good troll

can't still be standing at the door when it opens saying "yes, i'm the person who brought the flaming bag of dogshit that's here on your doorstep right now, you got a problem with that?"

Lol

It's hard for me to imagine that what she does couldn't be done better by someone else, but thus far she seems to be the winner by default at ultra-realistically portraying her little millieux. I guess the ability to get out of the way of reality is a kind of talent.

― has important things to say about gangnam style (Hurting 2), Friday, October 5, 2012 6:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm

― some dude, Saturday, October 6, 2012 11:22 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry but that... is really not otm post. imo she does not ultra-realistically portray her milieu, even if she did i think it takes a partic crude brand of, like, nerd misanthrope to dismiss that as, like, something 1 could just do, like "tolstoy was just the first person to ultra-realistically portray 19th c russian bourgeoisie all he had to do was get out of the way of reality"

if the world could write by itself, it'd write like lena dunham