C/D LENA DUNHAM (THE DEFINITIVE POLL)

it wasn't staking so much on claiming to be zeitgeisty or relevant or anything. but it's locale & the guy's social web & environment was a really big part of it, that it was contemporary noir in brooklyn, it's still worthy of attention i think.

its locale. its.

i agree that the show caught an unfair amount of shit for its racial makeup... i was referring specifically to that tokyo piece on this recording which has some low-level racism /xenophobia that would be banal if it wasn't so persistent

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, October 5, 2012 4:33 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i just read it and i was like, damn, lookin pretty racist lena.

yeah i mean that's what surprising to me because of what i've seen of the show it seemed totally in its league, so to speak, and that's despite whether or not i think it's good. but i feel like her writing is "college freshman gets his/her first student newspaper column" bad

I have never seen Girls so I've based my opinion of her off of her writing, which is pretty awful.

ok this is really bad, haven't gotten to anything racist yet but i don't know how much more i can stomach

i've never seen 'girls' but 'tiny furniture' is really good.

Still have had no exposure cept her bit role as a nurse in Mildred Pierce

ah thx for reminding me that I need to watch that!

what the... she was in that?

maybe for a minute

yeah what? is that real/right?
i cant even imagine her looking 'period' for a sec but mayb thats hindsight after everything else

well ill be damned its on her wiki

never dreamed i'd see the mom from freaks & geeks naked

did she come up on another thread or something

why is this thread here

there was some emmys fashion thing i looked at that complained about lena dunham's dress v specifically in the terms of 'god she didn't even look that bad naked and she is really ugly naked!!', which is another THRILLING EXAMPLE of the GENERATIONAL (wtf does this word mean) problem of how you can have a really easy life, a charmed one, and also in some respects and impossibly difficult one. anyway, voted classic

classic

http://fashionindiemedia.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/o-LENA-DUNHAM-570-1-560x852.jpg

never dreamed i'd see the mom from freaks & geeks naked

okay wait where was this

also who is in that pic with Mo Tucker

okay wait where was this

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, October 5, 2012 6:07 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

girls s1e06

is Girls on DVD yet? feel like I should at least check it out to get what all the fuss is about but me no gots HBO

ships 12/11 according to the HBO store

she dreamt she showed up on the red carpet w/o pants only it wasnt a dream

I googled that for you; you're welcome xp

otm yah she can make her life easier by wearing pants

haha man i should be getting commission for the sales i'm making for hbo here

actually the no pants outfit was a couple weeks later and i think is generally considered a success

i watched the first few eps of girls and it was kinda funny but the problem is the characters are all really frivolous and boring and who gives a shit

you're probably too old

I googled that for you; you're welcome xp

thx couldn't decide if I actually wanted to google "Freaks and Geeks Mom Naked"

i'm continually amazed at just how Allison Williams can look a lot like her dad but also simultaneously be amazingly gorgeous

ha i didn't even know that dunham was the main actress on the show

man shakes, slow down tiger!

you're probably too old

― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, October 5, 2012 6:14 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you probably have bad taste haha faced

D:

careful googling anything with freaks+naked as keywords.

exactly

It's hard for me to imagine that what she does couldn't be done better by someone else, but thus far she seems to be the winner by default at ultra-realistically portraying her little millieux. I guess the ability to get out of the way of reality is a kind of talent. I don't love what she does but I don't hate it either. Wish there was a third voting button.

i'm the "right" age for girls and i think that's why i hate it so much. it's such a nasty look at ppl my age. if i were older or whatever i might not care (lol millennials) but i guess i feel upset that ppl might actually believe she's the 'voice of a generation' and that everyone my age is a vapid, self-obsessed, ungrateful asshole.

it was kinda funny but the problem is the characters are all really frivolous and boring and who gives a shit

yeah it's an hbo half-hour series

everyone my age is a vapid, self-obsessed, ungrateful asshole

fixed

most young people are self-obsessed, ungrateful assholes

i guess 'vapid' is a gray area

'voice of my generation' stuff is like the first criticism that GIRLS self-defensively pre-emptively addresses, wake up sheeple

also, tho i got off-board around the idk 4th or 5th episode, i couldn't help but feel like the show was pretty reactionary and conservative in its critique. that might have changed or developed since that ep tho, i wouldn't know.

i stopped watching around episode two because, i don't know, television

anyway i was just looking at some news stories about her that reminded me that the fact that she's a writer-director-producer who stars in her own show is totally unimpressive but the fact that she's willing to be naked on camera is really important, particularly when she's a bit large!!

i think just from an entertainment stand point if youre going to make characters vapid, self-obsessed, ungrateful assholes they should also be like grotesque or maybe just clumsy or whatever, there has to be some interesting or funny aspect, her character seemed a lil more dynamic but everyone else was like omg i am trapped at this party, maybe this is supposed to be hyper realistic but i dunno just the law of averages would dictate that they would run into someone more interesting occasionally

also, she reminded me a lot of ppl i went to grad school w/ in nyc. that wasn't a positive thing.

i did enjoy the scene where she got fake high on tea and made her parents read her manuscript

yea there shd have been more of that

in tone & stuff

I think it's the nudity with a pudgy body that offends people. And the willingness to look unattractive while nude that make people think she has some weird obsession or is an attention-seeker.

Yeah no that's not what I'm doing - I agree she's within the bounds of 'normal' but she's outside the bounds of 'normal for a young woman fronting a TV show' (she's less outside them than she was).

i don't really think her not being liked is some sort of mystery. she clicks the boxes for a wide variety of people, many of whom would also hate each other, to find fault with her.

Let's list things that different people dislike about her:

She's a woman
She is a writer/director/creator of a successful show while being a woman
She is from an extremely privileged background and it is assumed this helped her become successful
Half-jewish
Not conventionally attractive, especially by woman protagonist of a TV show or film standards, especially in regards to her body-type - which while probably average or slimmer than the average American woman is extremely plus-sized by the standards of film or TV - and does not seem to be ashamed or chastened by this
Politically liberal, feminist
Politically centrist, white bourgeois feminist, Clinton supporter, in favour of the prohibition of sex work, Girls was a very white show
Public statements that cause controversy: Odell Beckham Jr didn't want to fuck me when i sat next to him, I've never had an abortion but I wish I had had one etc.

Sensual pantsuit anthem

Odell Beckham Jr didn't want to fuck me when i sat next to him

this rly was mortifying

She is from an extremely privileged background and it is assumed this helped her become successful

I mean, it's a silly reason to knock someone who does good work but it's a pretty fair assumption!

There's that joke about someone who covered themselves with antiperspirant apart from one square inch, which became a fountain. So, "that, but for misogyny" is a factor too - but there are a lot of factors, jim OTM.

also, when Driver was signed for it she said she'd never seen any Star Wars

xps. absolutely. i mean i am the king of hating this but otoh i can see how maybe this isn't something to hate someone for per se. I mean I really liked Girls, why should this bother me?

Haha I didn’t know about the Star Wars thing. Actually that makes me hate that she isn’t aware more enough to be trollish with that sort of stuff. Like trying to imagine the reaction if she claimed to have never heard of Star Wars or “it’s for nerds” etc.

I'll still rep for "One Man's Trash" and "American Bitch" being as good as any contemporary short story.

at least 70% of Girls is good

When I go, I want my casket to be driven through the NYC pride parade with a plaque that reads “she wasn’t for everyone, but she *was* for us”- who can arrange?

— Lena Dunham (@lenadunham) October 2, 2022

She's on the latest episode of Finding Your Roots; among the revelations is that she's descended from the first native-New Yorker mayor of New York (late 1600s). Additionally, he was a merchant who exchanged cheap goods to Indigenous people for large swaths of land, and also involved in the slave trade to some degree.

On the brighter side, she's also distantly related to Larry David.

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/lena-dunham-drops-polly-pocket-film-1236063276/

“I’m not going to make the Polly Pocket movie,” Dunham announced. “I wrote a script, and I was working on it for three years. But I remember someone once said to me about Nancy Meyers: the thing that’s the most amazing about her is that the movie she makes or the movie she would be making with or without a studio, with or without notes — that somehow her taste manages to intersect perfectly with what the world wants. What a fucking gift that is. And Nora Ephron, too, who was such a mentor to me, but always said, ‘Go be weird. Don’t kowtow to anyone.'”

“I think Greta [Gerwig] managed this incredible feat [with ‘Barbie’], which was to make this thing that was literally candy to so many different kinds of people and was perfectly and divinely Greta,” Dunham continued. “And I just — I felt like, unless I can do it that way, I’m not going to do it. I don’t think I have that in me. I feel like the next movie I make needs to feel like a movie that I absolutely have to make. No one but me could make it. And I did think other people could make ‘Polly Pocket.'”

Mattel seeking out Dunham for a Polly Pocket movie in the first place feels like a plotline cut from Barbie.