grantland is a blackhole
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
at the beginning of grantland she wrote more sustained celeb gossip type pieces, like a "normal" version of her stuff for thisrecording. i remember liking the one about jennifer aniston. i just don't get the almost-copying-pages-of-us-weekly-verbatim new-style lambert columns. they're unreadable!
― horseshoe, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
yah they're pretty useless
― call all destroyer, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
she doesnt tweet v much anymore either
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
:(
i miss you, molly!
― horseshoe, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
maybe she's working on a book? i hope so!
― horseshoe, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
i would even read a whole book about goddamn mad men that she's so obsessed with.
― horseshoe, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
i would read that book
― call all destroyer, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
they have both a good baseball writer (Jonah Keri) and a good football one (Bill Barnwell), plus every once in a while there's a neat podcast (like the Obama one), it's not exactly a great website but I kinda dig it now
― frogbs, Friday, 5 October 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
okay they got Norm MacDonald writing for them now, I'm officially a fan
We were trying to come up with New Year’s resolutions. Adam, sober now for over a year but nonetheless still somewhat interesting, said, “Hey, do New Year’s resolutions always have to be good for you?” The thought had never occurred to me. It’d be a helluva lot easier to stick with a New Year's resolution if your resolution was to become a big fat guy, right?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
The physical Grantland books themselves are beautiful.
― sandwich shortage (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/66990/jenna-maroney-an-appreciation
― Mordy, Thursday, 31 January 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
the Grantland 64 song best of the millenium thus far bracket is.....kinda depressing? maybe of sociological interest?
Tenative conclusions: white guys from 35-45 are overinvested in thinking Jay and Kanye are still in their prime.....
8 remaining songs look to be:
Rolling, Maybe, Paris, Empire, Paper, Ignition, Yeah!, Hey Ya!
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Monday, 26 August 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
kanye is still in his prime
― Treeship, Monday, 26 August 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
i voted paper but brightside seems to be winning atm
― Mordy , Monday, 26 August 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
thought it was pretty funny how they just c+p'ed p4k's best of the decade list
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 August 2013 05:52 (eleven years ago) link
― Treeship, Monday, August 26, 2013 12:05 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah in the same way that Kobe is.
― I’m pissed off for greatness (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 06:00 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/85512/mileytaughtme-the-lessons-were-learning-from-mileygate
― Mordy , Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
No ILX discussion of FiveThirtyEight/Nate Silver going to ESPN for a Grantland style multi-author site?First piece is hosted on Grantland.http://www.grantland.com/fivethirtyeight/story/_/id/9802433/nate-silver-us-government-shutdown
Kinda curious where this is headed - ESPN doing politics? Bring together all the stat nerds from around the sports spectrum (even though they don't work nearly as well in other sports as in baseball)?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 11 October 2013 04:59 (ten years ago) link
re: Grantland itself, now that you can safely ignore Bill Simmons content and Klosterman/Carles write rarely if ever, it's gotten to be pretty awesome, missteps like the song poll aside (and that was clearly Simmons exerting himself, right?).
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 11 October 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link
it was discussed somewhere, i'm not sure where. he was on the bs report shortly after it was announced and it sounded like he has pretty ambitious plans w/ grantland the definite model. sounds like the times was not a happy fit and w/ the stuff coming out about krugman lately i'd say it's safe to say there's a culture of cluelessness there. there was some spec that he was moving more towards tv and he confirmed he'll do things for abc news re: politics and for olbermann re: sports but from the podcast it sounded like that was a very minor thing, that it definitely wasn't why he left. i think those pop culture polls are more a vestige of vulture being a template for the site than any push by simmons (doubt he'd heard half the songs on that poll tbh).
― balls, Friday, 11 October 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link
American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA
didn't really say anything particularly interesting tho
― mookieproof, Friday, 11 October 2013 06:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah there's a couple of posts back in july, but they don't say much interesting either (for some reason morbs thinks he's only going to be writing about baseball now, which uh isn't the case). some stuff here - http://deadspin.com/espns-nate-silver-is-here-to-answer-your-questions-951328525
― balls, Friday, 11 October 2013 06:27 (ten years ago) link
http://deadspin.com/can-jason-whitlock-save-espns-black-grantland-from-hi-1586606960
posted this in the race thread but figure it'd be just as relevant here
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 June 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
sort of what i suspected was going on
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link
thought revive might be for this pos:
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-if-i-play-this-rb-singers-music-will-he-help-me-have-sex-chart/
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link
http://grantland.com/features/its-not-crazy-its-sports-the-subterranean-stadium/
i watched these errol morris docs on tv last night, they were all pretty good but this one was the best.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 2 March 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
writing a feature at an adult awards festival is so passé but since it's molly lambert doing it i'm willing to make an exception:http://grantland.com/features/porntopia/
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
http://www.businessinsider.com/espn-has-suspended-bill-simmons-former-website-grantland-2015-10
― scott seward, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
sucks for their good writers
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 October 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
Yep. The Grantland writers on non-sports stuff will need to find other outlets. Some of the sports writers may still survive on ESPN.com
FiveThirtyEight and The Undefeated will survive
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 October 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
@joe_sheehan We get the sports media we deserve.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
The Dissolve, Grantland ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 October 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
oh cool I can shelve the proposal I was going to send!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX5VCY28_Xo
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
aw this sucks, I really liked a lot of their non-sports writers (I'm sure their sports writers were good too, I'm just not that into sports). Also enjoyed some of the podcasts.
― silverfish, Saturday, 31 October 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
the unkindest cut of sll
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 2 November 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link
Jalen Rose's NBA stories were the unsung MVPs of Grantland.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 2 November 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link
http://observer.com/2015/11/why-we-should-mourn-and-cheer-grantlands-demise/
I didn't read their film coverage enough to weigh in on this:
Grantland was the epicenter of this cult of the upper-middlebrow. In a well-crafted (if somewhat overwrought) eulogy of Grantland for The New Republic, Alex Shephard and Mark Krotov highlight the site’s Paul Thomas Anderson Week, a multimedia, cross-site event that brought a tremendous amount of firepower to examining the filmmaker in every way imaginable. The event produced a lot of incisive commentary, and with its combination of various media and diversity of lenses, demonstrated the huge potential of web-native publishing. But it’s worth noting that Grantland on PT Anderson was an impossibly perfect combination of subject and venue. Mr. Anderson, an incredibly gifted filmmaker, occupies the upper-middlebrow perfectly, making movies that are labeled “indie” but which are treated like an event by our press, the kind of movie you usually take in at a specialty cinema but which aren’t impossible to find at the multiplex. Again, this isn’t a critical judgment of Anderson’s work, which is fantastic, but a recognition of a certain sweet spot in our culture industries that signify good taste without inviting accusations of pretension. It’s hard to imagine Grantland devoting a week to Lars von Trier, let alone Wong Kar-Wai
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
that's not wrong but lol at evoking two of the safest canonical "highbrow" directors i can think of
― call all destroyer, Monday, 2 November 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link
Anderson’s work, which is fantastic
no
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 November 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link
(and I liked the last two)
lol i've seen several things name checking that pt anderson week, none acknowledging the reason it happened was simmons specifically is a big pt anderson fan.
― balls, Monday, 2 November 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link
What a weird complaint.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 November 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
"It’s testament to a phenomenon that’s far broader than Grantland, and for which the site bears little blame: the rise of the sports snob, the guy who just can’t believe that someone could think something so dumb."
I think this dude hasn't hung around a lot of sports fans because this is not a remotely new phenomenon particularly with baseball.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 November 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link
zach lowe, on his most recent couple podcasts kept referring to grantland as "a website that still exists" right up until Friday's entry.
fairly certain he's going to land somewhere, his being one of the strongest hoops minds out producing work right now, i just hope it comes soon
― INTOXICATING LIQUORS (art), Monday, 2 November 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
completely disagree with the passage on bill barnwell. barnwell vs received wisdom is where he is valuable. freddie casually switches from talking generally to talking specifically about other football journalism in particular but he is ignoring the high volume churn of tv pregame guys, commentators, talking heads, internet commenters - those are the collective loudest volume opinion on football and they're dense with dumb epigrams and misguided cliches that could do with being dismantled. and he's being generous to the main body of football journalism anyhow; he's misunderstanding his own (apparently limited) experience for universal experience. anyway, it's when barnwell is putting original ideas forward rather than rebutting wrong ones that he stumbles the most.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 November 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link
I'm think I'm mostly going to miss Shea Serrano. Like Mike Tanier when he got booted from Sports On Earth, I can't see him landing much of anywhere that he can do what he does best - hip hop, R&B, bad movies and sports, all at the same time - unless maybe he winds up at Deadspin. I could still pretend I'm boggled why Tanier didn't end up at Deadspin except for the fact they already have Magary doing their weekly NFL thing, and Serrano going to Deadspin also seems redundant somehow but maybe not. SBNation, I hope, but then what happens to all the rapper quad charts?
Rembert Browne and Brian Phillips are also really important to me but the idea that they don't end up doing great things somewhere else just seems absurd. Phillips in particular seems like he could anywhere, I just worry that nobody else will ever let him do this: http://grantland.com/features/sumo-wrestling-tokyo-japan-hakuho-yukio-mishima-novelist-seppuku/
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 01:27 (eight years ago) link
On the sports side, I'm curious what Jonah Keri's ESPN reportage will look like. I don't think he's going to slot in well as a hot take artist who can drop in at Mike & Mike.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link
I never listened to it, but I loved both Emily Yoshida and Molly Lambert from the "Girls in Hoodies" podcast, and that there was a "Girls in Hoodies" podcast to offset the "Men In Blazers," etc. Yoshida going to The Verge made me sad.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link