Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

Are they always going to have the navy blue backdrop for debates? I liked the sky blue curtains from 1980.

well uh this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It0Dtm1gFFQ

interesting example alfred

slow fucking work computer

there you go again, alfred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HqHSkYG-Y
GEE I WONDER WHY

"He allegedly attends Harvard University"

not in a debate but reagan's 'a recession is when yr neighbor is out of a job. a depression is when you are out of a job. and a recovery is when jimmy carter is out of a job!' quip

yeah -- a distant cousin to Governor Reagan's dismissal of hippies: "A hippie is someone who looks like Tarzan, walks like Jane, and smells like Cheetah."

Making these guys tip their hands is always more fun than any zing

OBAMA BANNED THIS VIDEO

lol kinda funny in retrospect that mondale was entirely otm about reagan deploying 'there you go again' to deny plans to do something he would then go on to do after the election

lol does tucker carlson know about this????

haha does anyone know if daily show had time to react to BOMBSHELL VIDEO featuring THAT ANGER and THAT ACCENT? don't really watch daily show much anymore (don't have cable) but always have time for jon stewart going off on tucker carlson.

t-n coates' theory is that stewart whupping carlson has sent the latter into his current breitbart-manque tailspin. interesting theory.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/tucker-carlson-fails-at-trolling/263177/

Carlson's descent from reasonably credible magazine journalist to inept race hustler is well mapped territory. He has not been the same man since Jon Stewart took him down. The ethering reverberates through the years with such force that we now find its recipient slathering yesterday's nothing-burgers in weak sauce, and serving them up as the daily special.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/obama-leads-but-a-romney-comeback-might-start-out-west-with-colorado/#more-35419

A really good buddy of mine from college was interviewed as part of this analysis; he gets one direct quote

GOP satraps shake their heads:

DENVER — Tuesday night’s Drudge-led revival of a 2007 Barack Obama speech offered satisfaction to a core of conservatives who believe it exposed Obama’s secret radicalism and racial politics — but that view was far from universal among Republican strategists, many of whom wrung their hands over the high-profile video, which also ran on Fox News and The Daily Caller.

“This hurts Mitt,” said 2008 Romney consultant Alex Castellanos, who has at times been a harsh critic of his current campaign. “Mitt's window to turn the economic debate around is [Wednesday.] And his alleged supporters just shit on it. An abysmally selfish and stupid event.”

Castellanos wasn’t the only one to break ranks Tuesday.

“I [don’t] think this tape will persuade anyone. A cover up in Libya, a failing economy, and $16 trillion in debt are persuasive,” RedState Editor in Chief Erick Erickson tweeted late Tuesday.

“So, what new information do we have? That Obama's "I barely knew Rev Wright" was a lie? Sorry, already knew that,” tweeted Florida GOP consultant Rick Wilson.

Former McCain and Huntsman campaign manager John Weaver said attempts to use the video to energize the base are just another missed opportunity.

“Is the base Romney's problem?” he asked late Tuesday night. “I would hope he would, at least, ignore this. Instead, how about a detailed, believable economic plan focused on job creation? We're running against a guy with more than eight percent unemployed, etc. and instead of offering a counter plan for consumers to chose between, some are focused on the President being Black and liberal.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/republicans-fret-over-obama-tape-resurrection

haha that tnc sentence is such an amazing mixed metaphor i dont really even mind

'i paid for that microphone' was a quote from Frank Capra/Spencer Tracy film btw

haha i know! "The ethering reverberates through the years", so good

oh I was concentrating on the nothing burger slathered with weak sauce: it's after four.

that one takes two unrelated phrases and makes some sense out of them!

yeah but I'm hungry

i live in "bellweather" arapahoe county. i've had two separate democratic gotv efforts come by my suburban door. no republican efforts. i haven't seen too much romney enthusiasm exhibited. some anti-kenyan socialism shit though.

“Mitt's window to turn the economic debate around is [Wednesday.] And his alleged supporters just shit on it. An abysmally selfish and stupid event.”

Surprisingly blunt.

well, he's Cuban-American.

what an advantage being latino is

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/81973.html

Politico.

They're affecting an air of nonchalance because who the fuck cares.

He should have spent the last two months studying Young Money punchlines.

"Under Obama, the only new jobs are ones where you ask "Paper or plastic?"/ Grocery Bag!"

lol at freudian slip

Sigh

omg lol

ha i posted that in wrong thread

First post-debate poll (Ipsos/Reuters):

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1140220/-Romney-gains-after-debate-with-Republicans-Obama-with-independents

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/obama-campaign-breaks-fund-raising-record/

Unemployment rate down to 7.8%, but only 114,000 new jobs. However, last two months were revised up 86k jobs. Also job participation up .1%. Joe Scarborough is flailing.

everyone on twitter is making fun of jack welsh right now

Jack Welch ‏@jack_welch
Unbelievable jobs numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can't debate so change numbers

this morning the rial is falling + unemployment is below 8%. two major policy victories (economic + foreign affairs) for obama. but, you know, he seemed tired at the debates so i'm sure romney is going to win or whatever my fb friends are freaking out about today.

http://wonkette.com/486000/insanely-low-new-unemployment-numbers-mean-barack-obama-did-911

Cataloging the idiocy

The idiots on the Morning Joe tv thing with Joe Scarborough are back in "teleprompter" mode--saying Obama did lousy in the debate because he didn't have his teleprompter. They never discuss the substance or veracity of anything Romney said, they just love that he was on the attack.

Yeah, I saw that - they need to move the fuck on.

http://m.gawker.com/5949208/obamas-debate-what-the-fuck-did-you-expect

why is gawker running stupid jeremiads about a meaningless debate?

On the job # conspiracy thing, lol and all, but this is totally one of those things that lefty blogs would be saying in the reverse case. (And righties would be all TINFOIL HAT LIBS.)

i think we've done a better job consigning our conspiracy theorists to kos diaries.

Jack Welch shoulda died in prison, preferably sliced stem to stern

another roundup of BLS truthers

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10/meet-the-unemployment-rate-truthers.html

Damn post got eaten. Anyhow I like the gawker bit b/c it brings in talking about dem party bullshit and reiterates that you can't debates the way the president tried to

dem party is doing fine. they're one of only two parties that consistently vie for leadership in a world superpower, and not only are they currently the party in power at the white house, but they're about to stay that party for four more years.