Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

^ guys the romney campaign actually made an ad about MISSING RAVE GIRL

the ad is from 2007 fwiw, seems to be something he likes to use in pretty much every campaign he's been in

suck it phil collins!

― balls, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:40 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahah

I imagine that story is useful in all kinds of situations

the raver girl story is like the plot of a Mormon Chick Tract. All it needs is the devil luring the girl to the rave and saying, "HAW! HAW! HAW!"

hahaha, love this analysis: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/10/02/us/politics/what-romney-and-obamas-body-language-says-to-voters.html?hp

Obama's Gestures
Mr. Obama uses a more controlled style than Mr. Romney does. While the force of his movements can prompt the viewer to support the argument put forth, controlled movements can also make the viewer feel that the path suggested would not be easy.

Waving a Ball - In this movement, the president moves his forearm in an arc from the elbow with his palm open, fingers slightly rounded, as if he were holding a baseball. He often uses this gesture when trying to pass along a belief that he wants the viewer to embrace.

Cutting - Mr. Obama often makes a downward chopping motion to place emphasis on an action verb. He has used this to convey a task that he or the viewer might undertake, as well as to sarcastically suggest something his opponent might do.

Pointer - This may be Mr. Obama’s most frequent gesture. Holding his hand in a fist with his thumb overlapping the first joint of the forefinger as if he were operating a remote control, he moves his forearm in an arc from the elbow, with emphasis on the downward motion.

Romney's Gestures
Mr. Romney’s body language is generally more free-flowing than Mr. Obama’s. Such movements can be infectious, encouraging the viewer to join with the speaker.

Pointer - This gesture is similar to Mr. Obama’s pointer movement, with the hand in a loose fist, except that Mr. Romney holds his thumb to the palm side of his forefinger. Mr. Romney also swings his forearm more freely than Mr. Obama does, a gesture that emphasizes strength of conviction.

Embrace - In this movement, Mr. Romney has both hands open, fingers loose, suggesting an imminent embrace. Both arms move up and down repeatedly in a motion that is both free-flowing and direct, conveying the idea that his logic is obvious to all.

Tilt and Nod - Mr. Romney often uses two head movements to punctuate an idea. In the first, Mr. Romney tilts his head to one side, with eyes open wide, as if to ask, “Don’t you agree with me?” In the second, he nods his head, a gesture that suggests, “Of course we agree.”

romney's tilt and nod is by far his most defining move. if he happens to win, snl skits practically write themselves. just get some guy to make jokes about being rich and tilt and nod until you cannot tilt and nod anymore.

*waves ball*

its kind of ironic mitt leaning on the empathetic gestures

http://nofaceperformance.org/ronald_reagan_gif_4.gif

bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass bitch-ass

why is Reagan saying, "Mustache"?

xpost

Just going to leave this up on everyone's unlocked computer today.

http://maxgif.com/70d

he's saying "bitch-ass"

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk95/AggromanLives/Reagan.gif

"Potassium"?

No one's put an ice cream cone in his hand yet?

not many Ronnie gifs exist, alas

Sounds like someone needs to go out and win one for the giffer.

http://bestamericangold.com/_borders/President-Reagan-Thumbs-up.gif

Good one, phil.

Gotta watch out for those throne sniffers.

Meantime:

http://gawker.com/5948589/chipotle-manager-who-photobombed-mitt-romney-speaks-its-a-facial-expression-i-do-when-im-excited

forget which of the thousand romney pieces mentioned this, but supposedly it was during the harried search for ecstasy girl that mitt first encountered the neighborhoods/living conditions of less wealthy americans.

he was then 49 years old

Gotta watch out for those throne sniffers.

gross

Kanye and Jay-Z, "Sniff the Throne"

But all went better than expected, and Romney even left behind a $1.75 tip on an $18.25 tab.

I like the phrasing of that, where it's obvious he just passed over a $20 and said "keep the change" but it's making it sound like he counted out $18.25, then dug up a separate $1.75 and said "here, a tip 4 u"

mitt romney tips less than 10%, pass it on

Good ol' Mitt.

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2000_Traffic/000TRF_Michael_Douglas_043.jpg

yeah hate to defend the guy but djp otm, this is precisely how you tip at chipotle.

i'll take paleo-cons over libertarians tbh

― balls, Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

larison is smart about foreign policy mostly but paleocons are probably the worst ppl on the internet.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 6:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm with JD over balls here. give me any reason mag hack or an economist with a blog is over derbyshire or any of the vdare or 'amren' creepazoids

who tips at fast food joints?

people who've never been in one before?

is Starbucks fast food?

getting kinda o/t now, but a cato dude wrote an interesting short history of the relationship between libertarians and the old right in the US

http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/02/on-fusionism/

oh jesus this is about to turn into a tipping thread isn't it?

can never have too idiotic a list of Mittens' flaws

libertarians vs republicans

"The freeloading 47 percent video was far worse for Romney than “you didn’t build that” was for Obama":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-the-zinger-junk-food-politics/2012/10/02/5d346dbc-0ccc-11e2-bd1a-b868e65d57eb_story.html

milbank complaining abt junk food politics is rich

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/chocolate-zinger.jpg

oh man he linked to them in the column, I am as bad as him

from the UK pov "you didn't build that" barely seemed to register over here compared to the "47%" quote IMO.

you didnt build that was pushed hard by the gop but no one really gave a fuck

Wish Obama had made a "you don't give a fuck" gaffe so the whole Republican convention would have been call-and-response applause lines "WE GIVE A FUCK!" which sort of sums it up anyway, them caring a lot about shit no one else gives a fuck about

wow that milbank thing was unreadable.

aside from their inclusion in the weird porous bullshit category of 'gaffes' they don't seem too similar to me. if it's just 'negative things that happened in a campaign' then yeah romney's was worse because it was a weird manifesto rather than a less than preferable phrasing of a sentence fragment.

“We’ve had 43 straight months with unemployment above 8 percent, and what does the president have to say to all this? He says ‘forward.’ I think ‘forewarned’ is a better term.”

huh? am i right people?

that's not bad honestly