"best before date"

i don't really care what you all ~know~ best-before dates are ~really~ about, i am not putting past-it food into my mouth

a raw foodist, I see

Surely you realize the absurdity of the idea of food just instantly going bad at some exact minute instead of a gradual process and companies being able to know exactly when that minute will be weeks/months/years into the future

Also companies have to give themselves a gap btwn best-by dates and the date that the food actually goes bad to cover their asses

There's a huge difference between 'Best Before' and 'Use By'. The latter refers to things which are highly perishable and could be a health risk if eaten after that point (although I often use my common sense if something is past this). Best Before just means something may taste a little stale for example.

Chewshabadoo OTM. I pretty much never eat anything past a use-by date, but best before is just a guideline.

I've never not seen a use-by date in the US. It could be that you weren't looking hard enough though. They're frequently a barely legible computerized smear in some unobtrusive place on the packaging. Are UK dates very prominent?

Yes, this is what Americans kept telling me and I was looking out for them, thank you. We have them on *everything* in the UK. Maybe it was just shopping at Whole Foods, idk.

Most of the dates in the US are sell-by dates on fresher items, and on canned goods it typically says "best by" not "use by".

Surely you realize the absurdity of the idea of food just instantly going bad at some exact minute instead of a gradual process and companies being able to know exactly when that minute will be weeks/months/years into the future

― bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, September 29, 2012 8:50 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

of course people know it doesn't turn into a pumpkin at midnight on the date stamped on the side, you don't have to think that to use that date as some kind of guideline as far as when you don't feel like taking your chances

Guideline is the keyword. It's sorta zany to say "I will not think twice abt eating this the day before the date and I will not think twice about throwing it away 24h later"

I mean obv milk and steak are one thing but like some chips or cereal or something are going to be completely fine.

yeah things that merely get a little hardened and stale are flat are more a matter of how much you care about those things.

tbh i had a really terrible ordeal with giving my infant son some similac mix that had been sitting in the cupboard too long so these days i'm a little like man it's not like there are NEVER consequences to these things.

I grew up eating expired food and idk if it was actually safe or if 19 years of exposure just game me the kind of garbage can stomach of iron usually found in dogs.

I mean obv milk and steak are one thing

but milk and meat are two of the easiest things to tell when they've gone bad.
when I was a kid I would never consume anything past the lil date on the label. then I realized microbes do not wear watches or check calendars.

i don't trust myself to be able to tell when food is unsafe, basically

I still have the mackerel fillets in spicy tomato sauce with a best before date of December 2003, by the way.

I do that sometimes, especially with fish. Like frozen dinners they don't sell anymore, they're like a collector's item!

I was just thinking I think I've seen more consequential past it's besthoods than the label date with people still thinking things are ok since it is within date. Like yoghurt pots with foil top bulging out or the like, but still on shelf cos within date.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this but not 100%

Will be eating a prawn sandwich today with a use-by date of yesterday. Wish me luck.

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It's actually a wrap tbh

literally a wrap

Working my way through 5-year-old jam.

Phish?

Phish was on hiatus 5 years ago.

sorry. you made a great joke and I came back at you with bullshit jamrock pedantry.

loool it's okay it made me laugh

I was going to make a recipe involving a small amount of root ginger but none of the local shops had any.

I have a jar of ginger in vinegary water in the fridge but it is way older than the "12 weeks after opening" the label says to consume by, like maybe a year at least (yeah, I am not good at turning things out). If I use a teaspoon of it will bad things happen?

you'll be fine. vinegar is some strong shit.

that's good, thanks! it's only a little and I'm not going anywhere tomorrow so fingers crossed.

also threw out some dried herbs/spices lately which were past their "best before" and felt bad about it because it doesn't seem like dried herbs/spices go off, but I needed to clear cupboard space somehow

herbs & spices won't spoil, they will just lose their potency

yeah, long out of date herbs mostly just don't taste of anything

Clearing out a kitchen cupboard leaves me with 3 christmas puddings and 2 christmas cakes with best before dates of either 2009 or 2011. Anything to be done with these? I feel sure they'd be edible, but as evidenced by my having them all that long, I'm not the person to eat them, even if they weren't hideously out of date. Will birds eat them safely?

I also still have the mackerel fillets in spicy tomato sauce with a best before date of December 2003, I hear it was a good vintage.

Will birds eat them safely?

birds pay no attention to "best before" dates. they habitually evaluate potential food using their senses, including smell. if it is unsafe, they'll ignore it.

I guess. I wasn't sure if all the sugar or other ingredients might be bad for them.

Googling suggest it's perfectly fine - birds are going to love me! http://www.rspb.org.uk/our-work/rspb-news/news/387421-get-stuffed-how-to-feed-your-garden-birds-this-christmas

I just had some roast broccoli that is 2 weeks out of date. It was very green and firm and tasted and smelled good. In fact it was much better than some of that ropey produce Abel & Cole used to send at a not very reasonable price. I was reading graphic descriptions of hunger and struggling to subsist on rotten potatoes in the Klemperer dairies earlier and feel like sell by dates are pure decadence.

expired or no, barely discernible as broccoli is terrible anyway

:D

finally outdid myself lol (1995)

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as, discovered in a weird little cupboard in the block cellar being cleared out

"the long 90s"

let us know how it tastes

I made wild rice at my folks house a few years ago, and added a chicken bullion cube. The rice ended up tasting like pee and I think it was because the bullion had expired in 1975. I still give my stepmom a hard time about it.

Still, useful to know that if you're short of wee, old chicken bouillon provides a ready substitute.

there was that case where scientists tested tins from a 19th century shipwreck for microbial growth and they were declared safe for consumption.

tbf "deliciously rich" is an all-time all-purpose slogan

Honey makes a mockery out of vacuum sealed tinned food. Just put it in a ceramic vase and it'll be reet 3000 years later.

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Okay, serious question: I have two 2.5 ounce jars.. one is "Best by" 12/05/18, the other is 01/17/19. Visually the meat inside the jars looks fine, and they've been stored in a cool, dark cupboard. What's the collective opinion?

edible

deliciously rich

also post the outcome

the five year best by date is a part of the excessive consumption and waste of the modern era, as long as the seal is intact it should be good for 30-40 years at least! But tbh I'm completely fronting here and get a bit uneasy when my tinned goods are a couple of months past the BBE date.