White trick-or-treaters in blackface: C/D?

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― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Hey, what if Donald Trump made a guest appearance on a soap opera?

Umm, he did make a guest appearance on a soap opera. Just, you know, sayin'...

― captin crunchheart (dr g), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

(if my next GIS reveals a minstrel wearing bunny ears, I'm going to hit the reset button for the internet.)

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

I think I understand everything now:

Everything is offensive to somebody. Full stop.

In fact, my incomplete sentence above just offended the National Grammar Society... Oh! The horror!

I mean Jesus Fucking Christ, what is this world coming to. Oh, wait... I mean golly gosh, no, wait, I mean...

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

http://gallery.cannabis.com/albums/userpics/19533/thumb_hitler-watermelon.gif

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha that gif always kills me.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

I was Jesus for Halloween a few years ago. I saw a few other Jesi on Santa Monica Blvd. that night as well.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Is a group of Jesi (Jesuses?) a 'flock' or a 'gaggle'?

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

The gif felt nice and appropriate for this thread. Besides, Goodwin's Law was broken within the first twenty posts of this thing.

What happens next year if I go out trick-or-treating as Watermelon Hitler? I'll tell you what would happen: I'd be trapped in my Watermelon Bunker while my neighbors try to kick my ass.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

hahahahaha but you could just explain, "I'm Watermelon Hitler! I exterminate watermelons...with my mouth! See!" I mean who can not love that kind of explanation, right? Am I right?

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Is a group of Jesi (Jesuses?) a 'flock' or a 'gaggle'?

"A passion of Christs"

― elmo (allocryptic), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

elmo just made my day

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

ugh.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

>dressing as hitler = bad<

One can yell "Chaplin! Chaplin!" when the mob sets upon you.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

The weird thing about this thread is that Dan and Ethan are both right. I can see precisely WHY Dan is getting so het up about this, because what's offensive in the "it is not EVER acceptable EVER for a white person to dress up to make themselves look black" line is the assumption that the black person watching them will automatically cast themself as the victim. But equally, I agree with Ethan - if I saw someone walking through Shadwell dressed as a Bangladeshi I would want to kick the shit out of them. It's a matter of basic consideration for the 95% of people you might come across whose views you DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING CLUE ABOUT.

I mean, it's weird. I'm half Goan. 99% of the time I *hate* seeing white people doing comedy Indian accents. I'm not offended by Apu from the Simpsons - everyone in the Simpsons is a caricature and he's a more positive one than most of the others. Likewise, I'm not offended by Ben Kingsley in Gandhi - another tricky one, he's of Indian descent, he still LOOKS white most of the time, he's still blacked up in the role. They could have got a 'proper' Indian actor to play him. Where do you draw that line?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Matt is also completely OTM.

― Dan (Excruciating Back Pain) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Because there problem with the "I'm dressing up as someone I admire, why are you offended offended by this?" is there's a level of disinguenousness up there with that time a couple of years ago when Oops was posting pictures of cute black girls and saying "I've got a case of jungle fever", and when people called him out on it going "why? I don't see why anyone's offended by that, you're just being oversensitive!".

(Or words to that effect...)

I mean, who the fuck is anyone to dictate what other people can or cannot be offended by? It's a matter of common courtesy not to cross that line unless you have a very good reason (ie a serious political point to make). And "it's just a bit of fun" is not one of them.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe it took 397 posts for someone to say "just a bit of fun". You didn't say "political correctness gone mad" either, did you?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Can I just post this picture? Thanks.

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― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Late to the party as usual, but Ethan, woefully, woefully OTM about Athens, Ga frat-pimps.

― emilys. (emilys.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

Matt, I'm totally with you up until this point:

It's a matter of common courtesy not to cross that line

Who defines what/where that 'line' is?

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

You guys talk so much that I can't tell for sure, but has this really not come up yet!?
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― Dan I., Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

I got about halfway through this. The main thing that I want to add is that "blackface" is more than just dark makeup, it's the tapdancing and the vaudeville and the white circles around the eyes and everything else. So, a white person putting on makeup to more closely resemble their favorite basketball player is not "blackface." It's dark makeup. I can understand if somebody has issues with white people putting on dark makeup at Halloween, but don't call it "blackface," it's confusing.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

TRACER COMPLETELY OTM (and I said this several times and got ignored, shocker).

― Dan (ILE's Invisible Man) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Yes, fair enough. I should've used different terminology since the kids meant well, as I mentioned much earlier. (Though the substance wasn't just dark makeup... it was as black as black shoe polish, and the sizes of the afros were very exagerrated. If not for the jerseys, the kids would've looked exactly like caricatures.)

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

One can yell "Chaplin! Chaplin!" when the mob sets upon you.

Ron Mael! Ron Mael!

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Next year, I'm dressing up as Savion Glover.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

and the sizes of the afros were very exagerrated

Have you tried buying a modestly proportioned fake afro lately?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

i put fake blood on my face and shirt the other night at the halloween party, and the blood was substantially more in abundance than that you'd find on a typically heavily bloodied man.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

and that was probably offensive to real injured people

― sfxxx, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

if I saw someone walking through Shadwell dressed as a Bangladeshi I would want to kick the shit out of them. It's a matter of basic consideration for the 95% of people you might come across whose views you DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING CLUE ABOUT.

but this is v different from the 'blackface' scenario. these kids weren't actually in blackface, as per tracer, but the thread has kind of worked on that assumption. anyway, 'blackface' has a cultural resonance that 'randomly dressing up as a Bangladeshi' doesn't quite have. it would depend entirely on the context.

as for "the 95% of people you might come across whose views you DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING CLUE ABOUT" well, this is race-unspecific isn't it?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

i was ignorant to the significant it held to previous axe murder events.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

well the 95% thing actually applies to most actions in life.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

sfxxx OTBM

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

You're a vegetarian? Don't you pity those poor heads of lettace, ha ho.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

lettuce

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

Lettuce prey.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Yes

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

And once again there is love.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

who's a vegetarian?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

My problem with comedy indian accents is that they always take over my comedy welsh accent.

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Let's not forget -- Rob Schneider is always offensive.

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

I should hope so.

― So so Krispie (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Guys, I saw a thing on the football the other day, and Brandi Chastain was wearing that Randy Moss mask, terrorising old people and Mexicans and children and egging houses and all sorts of bizarre shit, while wearing that Randy Moss mask, until Randy Moss took her down???? The real Randy Moss, not a fake one. It was really, really bizarre. Then they said something about if you buy a Randy Moss mask they give money to charity??? But I don't even know which one, I was too confused about why Brandi Chastain dressed up as Randy Moss and then terrorised a neighborhood.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

x-post -- How about that Deuce Bigalow sequel, then.

(Ally's post rather crushes mine.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

As if I needed any more reasons to completely, totally, absolutely love both Brandy Chastain and Randy Moss! They should have psychotic babies together.

― Dan (My New Utopia) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

ben wallace's hair isn't an afro anyway.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

That's pedantic, it has been during periods.

ANyway the best thing about the Randy Moss/Brandy Chastain thing was that the Mexican dude ran out and was like "THAT IS SO NOT MOSSOME!" and I was like wtf does that even mean? Real Randy Moss also squired an entire bottle of water all over Chastain. Really I'm not sure why people watch anything besides the shows that lead up to/immediately come after football games, because it's like there's no way anything that occurs in them makes sense.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

no, i mean it's a natural. i'm pretty sure he's never had an afro qua afro.

that looks pretty great, written out: afro qua afro.

anyway it's like this one interview i read with kyp from tv on the radio where the interviewer (probably white) was all "how do you get your afro to look so good?" and kyp responded with something like "it's not an afro, it's a natural. next question."

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Can we ball up all the energy in this thread and put it toward some kind of hex on this lowlife?

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

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