Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

If you adjust the 2008 election results to who John McCain thought should win the election, the results may surprise you!

yeah the same ppl moaning 'liberal bias' about the polls were doing the same thing in 08 and 06. tbf dems were doubting the polls in 04 also but there the argument was 'poll shows bush w/ very slight lead BUT cell users w/o landline aren't being polled = kerry probably REALLY w/ small lead'. still the 'actually the polls show romney w/ huge lead' myth is enough to hang onto for conservatives to know that obv obama stole the election if/when he wins, just like in 08.

on the right you see a lot of "Rasmussen is the most accurate poller, why do lefties discredit their polling" stuff. Which comes from 08 when Rasmussen continued to show a tight race as everyone else had Obama breaking away post-Lehman. But in the week before the election Rasmussen's polls moved towards everyone else's ~mysteriously~ and on Election Day they arguably were closest to the final results. This somehow makes Rasmussen the "most accurate polling org," even though it was obv the company saving their reputation.

even if rasmussens were incredibly accurate the night of the election, it was basically a luck thing, I imagine the vast majority of the polls had the right number within their margin of error

yeah it's statistical noise, but its a myth you see a lot of that entirely discounts rasmussen's strong GOP bias before the final week.

If only conservatives went by the playbook of reality... they might be more sufferable!

man, this 60 minutes double interview. i hate everyone.

Lol at Romney in this CBS interview, dude looks like a carrot

Dude (Looks Like a Carrot)

a lovely blue incandescent guillotine

whoops:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSAGR0arBUo

Indeed, sir:

Romney, who has come under fire from Republicans for not holding enough public events, told reporters that it was Obama’s decision to not use federal funds in 2008 that is forcing the Republican to spend more time behind closed-doors fundraising instead of out greeting voters.
Romney held no public events on Saturday, instead fundraising in California. He had one rally on Sunday in a Denver, Col. suburb. His campaign is launching an Ohio bus tour on Monday with vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan. Romney won’t join the bus tour until Tuesday.
“I’d far rather be spending my time out in the key swing states campaigning, door-to-door if necessary, but in rallies and various meetings, but fundraising is a part of politics when you’re opponent decides not to live by the federal spending limits,” Romney said without being asked about his campaign schedule.

Filthy Rich Republican Complains Of Unfair Advantage Conferred By Financial Resources

“I’d far rather be spending my time out in the key swing states campaigning, door-to-door if necessary, but in rallies and various meetings, but fundraising is a part of politics when you’re opponent decides not to live by the federal spending limits,” Romney said without being asked about his campaign schedule.

dying

yeah that is about the funniest thing ever

Wow, will definitely be keeping an eye out for the byline "Ginger Gibson" after that

she needs to learn how to spell "your".

http://i47.tinypic.com/i1zlt2.jpg

lol @ newt for continuing to bang away on his space drum and lol @ mitt for weathering out a terrible week of criticism only to have newt stand up and shout "AND ANOTHER THING!"

The reckoning:

If the Republican ticket loses in November, the rush by Mr. Ryan and other 2016 hopefuls to position themselves for the Iowa caucuses “is going to look like Best Buy the night after Thanksgiving,” said Craig Robinson, a former political director of the Republican Party of Iowa. “I hate to say this, but if Ryan wants to run for national office again, he’ll probably have to wash the stench of Romney off of him.”

'the stench of romney' :(

TS: the stench of romney vs the odor of santorum

The funk of forty thousand years.

1-800-GOP-FUNK

there is something about romney that seems perfectly cast to wind up as a zombie. the hollowed-out eyes, the robotic aspect, the amorality. and the just cosmically bad karma situation obviously, in zombie movie terms he's get bitten in the first 10 minutes.

in zombie movie terms he's Patient Zero

Or the infected monkey.

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man, this 60 minutes double interview. i hate everyone.

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Yes, the candidates and the 60 Minutes Interviewers

And me for watching

lol I had it on mute while I tried to talk my dad through a problem with his wifi; didn't feel like I was missing anything

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/newsweek/2012/09/23/andrew-sullivan-on-the-promise-of-obama-s-second-term/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage_1.img.503.jpg/1348450859414.cached.jpg

put it back in yr pants andrew

“I’ve got a very effective campaign. It’s doing a very good job. But not everything I say is elegant,” Romney said. “And I want to make it very clear, I want to help 100 percent of the American people.”

from the 60 minutes interview. the fact that he has to make that very clear is embarrassing.

lol the irl first line

As the fall has turned crisper, a second term for Barack Obama has gotten likelier.

how delightful

"Will achieve in his second term"

Isn't this a contradiction?

i love Newsweek's shocking headlines

OMG what was the big mistake of all of america's women?
Obama already won?? shit, he already won!!!
Steve Jobs could have been saved?? Why didn't we save him, whose fault is this?!
Some lady lived as a Saudi!??!

as my fries have been cooked crispier, a second helping has gotten likelier

A student told me a few minutes ago that on "60 Minutes" last night Romney happily said we already have universal health care and it's called emergency rooms. Is this true?

hahaha wait that cannot be true

I watched the 60 Minutes interviews online. Romney still won't say which tax loopholes he'll close, which is bizarre unless, all evidence to the contrary, he still believes all he has to do is wait this out and the economy wins it in the end for him. I'm probably one of only a handful of people on here who's not yet convinced he's not right, but if he isn't, his continued silence on specifics is a huge mistake.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/09/24/romney-calls-emergency-room-a-health-care-option-for-uninsured/

“Well, we do provide care for people who don’t have insurance,” Romney told interviewer Scott Pelley. “If someone has a heart attack, they don’t sit in their apartment and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care.”

If someone has a heart attack, they don’t sit in their apartment and die.

lol this is bullshit

I just

I mean

I cannot

my sides

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didn't see it, but that line of thinking isn't unprecedented. didn't W say something similar at one point - that emergency rooms are in effect providing universal health care? i have to run in a sec, but here's a NYT article from earlier this year references that in the second paragraph: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/opinion/for-the-uninsured-the-wait-for-health-care.html?_r=0

We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care.

I can imagine a smiling, jovial Mitt, picking up heart attack victims in his stretch limousine, telling jokes, slapping their knees, while Ann mutters "You people and your health problems" and reads from the Book of Mormon.

its been a popular if not v wise republican thing to say for a while now

this has been the most delightful campaign, the only thing missing is Sarah Palin

But it's completely insane! The guy is running against a guy whose signature policy accomplishment is a still-controversial health care package! His OWN signature policy accomplishment is a health-care package that was sold in part on the grounds that the emergency-room "system" was not acceptable! The ad writes itself: "Mitt Romney hasn't been too specific about his proposals for health care... Until this week."

CBS article, 2009:

This nonsense is surprisingly common in Republican circles. Last year, Tom DeLay argued, "No American is denied health care in America," because everyone can go to the emergency room. Around the same time, George W. Bush said the same thing: "People have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room." In 2004, then-HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson said our healthcare system "could be defined as universal coverage," because of emergency rooms.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/28/politics/animal/main4392483.shtml

I really do think the guy's brain is scrambled. He just really can't remember which position he's supposed to take with which audience, and which words go with which spiel. I think if the party and history would let you quit, he would.

are you kidding, he would never ever ever ever EVER quit

I expect that if/when he loses the election, he will give an acceptance speech anyway

he could probably still run for president of his local PTA. competition is weeeeak this year.