So he was sent as a goon by CBS? I guess that kinda makes sense
Also, gotta say that in addition to Lynch that kid who plays Louie's agent really did a great job in these last episodes
― frogbs, Friday, 21 September 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)
he was sent as a goon for himself. seinfeld didn't know that letterman was still an option, saw louis as his only comp (chris rock apparently not a factor), did a number on louis cuz it's show business not show friends only it backfired and managed to motivate louis enough to do a great show. cbs meanwhile gets the leverage they need against letterman, their target all along. i can understand ppl not liking it or thinking it dragged on too long but i thought this was a nice arc w/ an honest happy ending, esp if his character actually manages to change and exhibit this growth from here out.
― balls, Friday, 21 September 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)
although you're right that lynch's advice DID apply to the letterman thing didn't it, as much as it immediately applied to seinfeld part of me thinks that letterman in fact was what lynch was actually talking about. am going to miss lynch btw. liked that all of the high profile comedian appearances made them look bad (w/ leno of all ppl being the most ambiguous). wondering if the boxing training was just a tip of the hat to louis training w/ mickey ward in real life or if that's going to be a thing going forward. seems a waste of isiah whitlock otherwise.
― balls, Friday, 21 September 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)
aha, I hadn't even considered that Seinfeld didn't know Letterman wasn't retiring, now it makes sense to me.
this show's definitely been weird with its guest stars thus far. nobody's been anything like what I'd have expected them to be (outside of his comedian pals like Todd Barry, Norton, DiPaolo, etc.) I will say that Lynch has probably been the best one so far.
― frogbs, Friday, 21 September 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)
i like chris rock's appearances alot, probably the most i've ever liked his 'acting' tbh. i haven't minded the guest stars as much as other ppl (hasn't annoyed me anywhere near the level of the big celeb guest stars in season 3 of 30 rock for example) but i did feel this warmth when he was hanging w/ his comedian bros at the end. never ever thought i would be happy to see nick dipaolo.
― balls, Friday, 21 September 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)
i've liked silverman's appearances too but yeah lynch has been the best
― nose, Friday, 21 September 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)
I really liked these episodes, but one thing I couldn't figure out, particularly in the 3rd ep: the scenes with his daughters had this really sentimental music playing each time he explained that taking a job hosting a late night tv show would mean that he'd see a lot less of them, etc. And there was something about the way it was done that was just completely not typical of the tone of the show—which, I know, is about constantly upsetting our expectations—so much so that I wondered whether it was a gentle parody, like 'this moment is serious and heartfelt, cue serious heartfelt music'
― America's Mobile, Friday, 21 September 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)
I got a "yeah we know it's corny, go with it mofo" vibe from that stuff and esp the "revelation" scene where Louie and the agent figure out they're getting played. Not to mention the Rocky stuff. The whole thing toys with extreme accessibility in a way I found enjoyable (and weirdly affecting).
― Simon H., Friday, 21 September 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)
never ever thought i would be happy to see nick dipaolo.
real talk
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 21 September 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)
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yeah this is true, like an extra stepthe scene w/his daughters coming over to give him a card almost made me cry. or him in times square - not hollering at a building, just him in times square. he has a lot of bathos, i guess he is this perfect mix between looking tough & looking doughy & vulnerable, it just slays me.
― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Saturday, 22 September 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)
or those shots of him running through the streets, & then w/the kids joining him. he films new york so fucking beautifully! like the arrangement of the shots was super ambitious & smart, w/a camera intersecting & then driving alongside him. killer.
― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Saturday, 22 September 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)
I wondered if the kids running with him was unplanned, like the dude flicking off the camera in the opening sequence (which I hope isn't gone for good).
― Dan I., Saturday, 22 September 2012 00:33 (thirteen years ago)
ah, I guess it would have to be scripted or they'd be waving at the camera. It was a nice touch, anyway.
― Dan I., Saturday, 22 September 2012 00:34 (thirteen years ago)
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― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Saturday, 22 September 2012 00:38 (thirteen years ago)
idk man i thought the same
great payoff. whole arc felt very honest, and i was surprised that it did't stay dark all the way though, but the uplifting part wasn't too cornball. the one ridic thing was how baffled louie was by basic talk show convention -- like asking your guest a question or w/e.
― s.clover, Saturday, 22 September 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)
that was annoying. "ok, do an interview." "WHAT?!?!?!??!"
― the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Saturday, 22 September 2012 03:27 (thirteen years ago)
however, dad night live ftw. really great episode.
― the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Saturday, 22 September 2012 03:28 (thirteen years ago)
So the four Oscar winners this season = F. Murray Abraham, Robin Williams, Melissa Leo, Susan Sarandon?
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Saturday, 22 September 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)
JB Smoove must have an Oscar by now.
― LaMonte, Saturday, 22 September 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)
lynch has a win right? (Best director for I believe elephant man?)
― Clay, Saturday, 22 September 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)
Nah he was nominated but Robert Redford won that year. Also nominated but lost for Blue Velvet and Mulholland Dr.
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Saturday, 22 September 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah the problem to me with stretching this to 3 parts was that Louie seemed caught off guard for too long, like wouldn't he have regained his footing with Dahl sooner? But I'm always a little bothered by the Louie "character" in this show- I want him to act more like he does in his stand up (which is very real life Louis CK) and have a fuck it attitude, but the character he is playing is just bumbling and lacking confidence a little too often.
― Evan, Saturday, 22 September 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)
otm! the guy in that standup bits and the character are two separate entities.
― calstars, Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)
After that interview scene I now really just want to see a set of clips of louie baffled by everyday life.
Lynch: "Tie your shoelaces."
Louie: "Like use that ends of the, what is that, is that like string? I do the knot, right?"
Lynch: "Introduce yourself"
Louie: "Hi, I'm David Lyn.. oh shit, I'm sorry, can we try that again."
Lynch: "Open that door."
Louie: (falls to the floor and starts foaming at the mouth)
― s.clover, Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)
Hahaha
― Evan, Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)
Love when they pan over to the agent sitting there on the side at the end of the scene in the office.
― emilys., Monday, 24 September 2012 05:51 (thirteen years ago)
Uh...I guess that was the end of the season? Odd, but I liked it...maybe?
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:50 (thirteen years ago)
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― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Friday, 28 September 2012 03:51 (thirteen years ago)
A++ ep
― johnny crunch, Friday, 28 September 2012 03:57 (thirteen years ago)
Holy shit, what a fucking finale. Wow.
― Simon H., Friday, 28 September 2012 04:01 (thirteen years ago)
loved it
― frogbs, Friday, 28 September 2012 04:05 (thirteen years ago)
really can identify with the spatial thinking & manual dexterity deficiencies that went into the doll surgery
― the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Friday, 28 September 2012 04:10 (thirteen years ago)
Seriously that might have been the best single ep ever, expect that it was clearly dependent upon knowledge of the last two seasons? So maybe not as great a standalone as "Eddie," but still pretty damn great.
― Simon H., Friday, 28 September 2012 04:20 (thirteen years ago)
that was really great, uh huh. the doll sequence was bravura, like the pace at which its depravity deepened.
― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Friday, 28 September 2012 04:32 (thirteen years ago)
the bus reunion was kinda amazing & shocking & the next scene really beautifully put together - the non-standard ER bleeps, the slowness in focusing.this was a touch overscored i think!, but yeah this was great.
― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Friday, 28 September 2012 04:34 (thirteen years ago)
There was a new episode tonight? Dammit.
― Half Jaglom Half Winkler (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 28 September 2012 07:29 (thirteen years ago)
Also some kudos for not having a single person in the whole China sequence speak any English. The whole time I was expecting someone to come along with broken English to deliver some line that would become the season-ending epiphany or whatever. Not being able to communicate with anyone made the ending a lot more profound (as much as it kills me to use that word)
― frogbs, Friday, 28 September 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)
the china thing was kind of retarded
― flopson, Friday, 28 September 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)
psa: nothing described as retarded is ever as bad as the deployment of the word retarded
i thought the china thing was pretty good! i know a sorta WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE FRIENDLY AND PULL YOU INTO THEIR HOMES message is maybe a little pat, but i feel like the story had enough use for it that it worked; like louie as utterly unanchored guy whose kids have just descended like a family portrait down an elevator shaft, able to just go honour his least fleshed-out-impulses (ie "china looks nice") & be aimless somewhere else. in similar kinda-flimsy-representations-of-nations territory, i thought the synchronised river-gestures part, with the guy, was really beautiful to watch! & that the meal did sorta demonstrate something & wasn't just a cloying happy ending (it sorta rhymed, to me, with the veselka ending to s1, only in this case louie is having to find some sort of contentment w/o his kids).
happy to defer to someone w/actual on the ground investment or affiliation to china if this all seemed uncomfortably reductive though.
― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Friday, 28 September 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)
I really liked the first part a lot, but the last half didn't do much for me. Such is the Louie experience.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 28 September 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)
i know a sorta WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE FRIENDLY AND PULL YOU INTO THEIR HOMES message is maybe a little pat, but i feel like the story had enough use for it that it worked
plus this shit actually happens! as i can attest with a guy bringing me/my mum/this other couple in to his home in egypt to drink tea w/ him so he could try out his english and my mum was teaching his daughter to whistle. foreigners be nice and stuff.
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 28 September 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)
schlump's post otm. the elevator scene was pretty surreal in that regard. i also liked the dream sequence; particularly the way it reflects how he really has no idea what kind of people his daughters going to become, and how not only would they not see him on regular basis, they wouldn't even see each other.
― frogbs, Friday, 28 September 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)
ya i just felt like foreigners be nice and stuff was a dull note to end the season on
― flopson, Friday, 28 September 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)
(xp)
some of the tenses in the dream sequence were rad, i wish it had gone more in that direction. also that someone had been wearing the rabbit hat from whichever season it cropped up in.
kept remembering the bus reunion today, whoa heavy
― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Friday, 28 September 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)
interesting how he tied together ducks/his youngest daughter/traveling abroad once again
― Darin, Friday, 28 September 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)
I hate new years too.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 September 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)
i strongly reject any suggestions that there was any retardedness in this episode whatsoever. i live overseas and thought the china stuff rang true. i loved how they wrapped up (for once and for all!) the daddy's girlfriend arc. plus, this is destined to be the most fucked up run-it-every-december christmas special EVER
― messiahwannabe, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:32 (thirteen years ago)
did louis buy the duck book for his daughter for xmas because of the afghanistan duck?