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okay, exactly how strict are they about monitoring moving expenses? mine may or may not be work-related, in that i left michigan with one job, then drove to oregon, and eventually got another job.

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Everyone having fun yet? (Calculated mine for feds and state today and essentially have a 'refund' in that the amount I set aside regularly each year to cover things beyond withholding will barely need to be touched, so I'll apply the balance to the Euro trip -- most handy.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 March 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

oh fuck I have to go to an accountant soon

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

A nice refund this year, for once. My accountant suggested that I use it to make all of this year's quarterly estimated payments in advance and I said "hahahaha... no."

Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

ever since i learned they have people who correct your mistakes, i just fill in random numbers and send them all my forms and stuff to "double-check".

jones (actual), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
So, yeah. 1099-MISC from City Pages, roughly $2500 in "self-employment" earnings. Do I use Schedule C, Schedule C-EZ or Schedule F (for profit/loss from farming)? Probably not F, of course. But I can't figure out how to use the other two. And then I guess I need Schedule SE on top of it all?!

Nothing was taken from that relatively small amount of profit, but I assume it will absolutely drain any chance I have at a refund. (The last few years have been just under $1K.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I used turbotax online this year since I had some tricky stuff, I totally loved it. It cost like 50 bucks for the state and federal combined though.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

oh shit, i should do mine soon.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

GO FUCK YOURSELF STATE OF CALIFORNIA

I can't see how I can possibly owe you two grand. I'm sure there are people who make twice as much as me who don't owe fuck.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK A TAX DAY

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Have fun!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Argh...

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

We owe the same as Kyle. Fucking ridiculous.

Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't done mine yet. I'll do them tonight or tomorrow.

I r queen of last minute taxes.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I still don't get how you end up owing two grand (esp. in Kyle's case, hasn't had the same job all year.) Is your company fucking up what they take out or is their a withholding screwup? Crazy!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

2 grand! How horrific. :-( That's gotta be some fucked up withholding thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

You need a system like the British tax system! - good, solid, reliable, British!

Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.armchairhawk.com/images/mainsmall.jpg

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

got mine done 3 weeks ago -- got my fed refund last week, my NY refund (all of $9) is due tomorrow.

suckahs :-P

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, I did my taxes months ago and already got my money back ($200 for federal and about $250 for state.) It was nice.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

arr i need my refund please send me my refund

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

What is the amount that if you make less than that you don't have to pay taxes?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Damned 1099 income. Instead of the usual grand I get. I'm only getting $250 from the govt and then have to take $180 out of that to give to the state of MN. Damn.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I ended up in a situation similar to Eric. My Fed. refund is paying my State taxes.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

hey just be thankful that you don't have to pay taxes to TWO states -- BOTH of which have some of the highest state income tax rates in the country!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Tad, sweetie, how much do you have to make in order to pay taxes?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

$7,951 and up and you have to file

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I was owing a few hundred dollars because of federal self-employment taxes on the 1099 from my band, so I had to come up with all sorts of music-related deductions (all the cds I bought, gear, gas, rehearsal space food, etc.) to get in the red.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(gross)-federal.

xpost

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i just got 5 bucks more on Telefile than what I calculated myself. sweet.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

did you ask for your refund to be direct deposited jody? I did and it happened within the week! It was great!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the baseline! I searched all over the IRS site and couldn'd find it.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

goddamn it I wrote a big thing and it got POXY FULED

anyway, you wind up owing money this way:

if you're married, and you mark "married filing jointly" on your withholding forms at work, they withhold LESS money from your check than they would if you marked "single." this is because the tax system (wrongly, in almost all cases) assumes that if you're married and filing jointly, you're supporting your wife. If both people are working, you have to go through the two-earner, two job worksheet to find out what the difference is b/w what they'll withhold and how much taxes you will actually owe. This is almost always short though for some reason. (note: this is all only true for Federal. State, which is what I owe, doesn't bother to give you a nice worksheet to figure this out. They just say "fuck you", give you no tools to find out how much you owe, and then charge you when you're short. This is called "California is broke and squeezing you for money, bitches.").

If your income fluctuates from month to month because of overtime or bonuses or something, then God help you.


Being married sucks for taxes because of this, and also, this: say you make 70k. Say your spouse make 40k. If you're single, you pay the tax rate for someone making 70k, and your spouse would pay the rate for someone making 40k. But if you're married, you pay the rate for ONE income making 110k. Which is a higher percentage than the others. This means you pay more taxes when you're married than single people making the same money. This is called the marriage penalty and everyone thinks that they got rid of it last year. They did, but only for very low income people. The rest of the country (ie: the middle class) gets fucked.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

but, thank god for schedule C. I got to deduct 3k worth of business expenses.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

AKM makes a great case for why you should always elect to have taxes taken out at the single rate.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought that was given.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean unless you have a bunch of kids.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

If you have a bunch of kids you can claim them as dependents and your taxable income ends up being something like $2.45.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

If you have a bunch of kids your chances of appearing frazzled on Nanny 911 also go up exponentially.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I owe $37.23. Bah. I hate that exhilerating crash and burn moment of the taxes where it seems it could go either way--$1,000 rebate! $500 loss!

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I've spent all week trying to whittle away a bunch of contract-work income so I don't wind up paying a ton; I'm down to around $900 out-of-pocket, which is nearly everything I have to spare. I really, really should have put teeth on the bullet and had an accountant do this. I'm fairly positive I could wipe out half of what I owe by folding in a bunch of perfectly-legitimate self-employment-type expenses, but I'm still at a loss as to how to work it -- barring a major mental breakthrough tonight, tackling this myself will turn out to have been a big mistake.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

put a big ass amount on schedule C, file it, and pray

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Nabs, can you conveniently forget to declare some of the income?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I got an app $1100 federal refund but owe $991 to state and paid an accountant $100 so I think I came out ahead $11. This is even with like $7000 in deductibles.

h0t h0t h0rsey (Carey), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i have an awesome accountant. last year i had paid zero taxes -- was on unemployment for part of the year, and made about $20k from freelancing. my accountant got me a $1500 refund. this year half my income had been taxed, have had not, and he got me a $1200 refund. my girlfriend, however, did not get off so easy. she owes $6k thanks to the freelance lifestyle, tho, truth be told, it could've been worse. (my roommate, who makes far less money than her, owes $10k.)

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

My taxes somehow worked out so that NYS owed me more money than I paid them. This seems wrong but I've been assured it's within the realm of normal. I'll probably get fucking audited. Which would be hilarious, I mean a person with $8000 taxable income abouts getting audited.

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Thursday, 14 April 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd represent you before the IRS, but someone who only has $8K in taxable income = CANNOT AFFORD ME BEEEEEEEEYOTCH

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Somehow my state refund is actually bigger than my federal. Which isn't saying much.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 15 April 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

state gets refund, federal i owe bunches coz i didn't figure to add self-emp tax to my estimateds. PLUS i hadta pay a bunch of back self-emp from last year coz of it. bleh. if only i understood the deductions/se thing i woulda kept recipts and done the whole deal. now mournfully too late.

thankfully i make little enuf that this isn't massive chunks of change we're talking about yet.

grrr.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 15 April 2005 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

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nabiscothingy (nory), Friday, 15 April 2005 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

that sucks! sorry to hear that

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:22 (one month ago)

if anyone is stressing, I just used an online free filing thing called TaxSlayer and it went pretty well... no charge and they were able to file my CA taxes as well

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:25 (one month ago)

TurboTax wanted to charge me $70 to file with student loan interest (of maybe $15?), so I used one of the free ones on the IRS site.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:33 (one month ago)

i filed for an extension and we’re going to go to a tax person. i am pretty sure that what is happening is that because we file together, it is thinking that i am receiving excess ACA subsidies…. but I pay for my plan myself?

i just can’t believe this shit. 7% of our yearly income, and for what!

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:38 (one month ago)

Figured it out: basically, I gave our financial info to PA ACA marketplace— if there are changes in income, then you are supposed to inform them. Of course, I didn't think to inform them when my husband became salaried and started making a fair amount more money in September, because why would I? But this altered our tax liability, and thus altered what I would have been offered in subsidies, and now we need to pay some/all of that back.

Sick sad world.

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 22:47 (one month ago)

Ugh that sucks.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 23:00 (one month ago)

table that is exactly what happened to me when I owed last year, my sympathies

Serfin' USA (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 00:08 (one month ago)

now I have no ACA at all, so that's that

Serfin' USA (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 00:09 (one month ago)

TurboTax wanted to charge me $70 to file with student loan interest (of maybe $15?), so I used one of the free ones on the IRS site.

― Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, April 14, 2026 2:33 PM (four hours ago)

probably the last year I use them. I owed 1k in federal and got 2k back in state and after all their fees ended up only getting 600-700 or so back

comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 01:56 (one month ago)

Got a decent state refund this year and a very small federal refund. (I use TurboTax.) It helps that my record label loses money every year. But I'm currently in the process of reconfiguring BA as a 501(c)(3), and I lost my day job in October, and I really don't know what effect those two things are gonna have for next year.

wipes chooser (unperson), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 02:34 (one month ago)

The ACA subsidy repayment thing is one of the things I hate the most about the current tax code (and I am far too familiar with the federal tax code… because I had to study for the fancy licensing exam last year)… there have been caps on repayment in the past, but this year’s stupid bill eliminated them all.

The way they calculate the subsidies can also be weird… idk … I remember how much I had to pay before ACA existed so I always overestimate my income because $300/month for health insurance is still cheap based on my memory. …of course if I couldn’t afford $300/month, that would be a different story.

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 19:33 (one month ago)

Meanwhile I have become an accidental salesperson for self-employed retirement accounts…

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 19:39 (one month ago)

i have been trying to speak to someone at the IRS for over 2 weeks, I call multiple times a day and get all the way though until it goes to transfer me to someone and then I get the " We are experiencing extreme high volume please try later or tomorrow, bye"

I'm really at my wits end, it's really fucked up for them to send a notice with instructions to call by a certain date and then it's impossible to get through.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 22 April 2026 14:23 (one month ago)


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