Mel Gibson's APOCALYPTO!

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BTW, I love this:

And the obvious care that has been taken with costumes, sets and the dialect-correct language suggests the kind of cultural attention filmdom has rarely if ever accorded the Mayas, who were the Greeks of the New World.

That last phrase is provided, then resolutely unexplained.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Can't wait for the sequel, My Big Fat Mayan Wedding

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

the Mayas, who were the Greeks of the New World.

http://www.stfrancis.edu/en/marzec/loq01/mb1.jpg

― phil d. (Phil D.), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:26 (twenty years ago)

The REAL Passion of the Christ

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Google Image Search gives very different results for "Greek homosexual" v. "Greek anal," if anyone wondered. VERY different.

― phil d. (Phil D.), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Greeks: Euclid, Socrates, Archimedes, Plato, Sophocles, Aristotle, etc etc etc

Mayans: Chocolate

WTF????????

― Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

I really didn't think this day would come. When I saw the trailer I thought, oh, now that DOES NOT exist.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:52 (twenty years ago)

My first impression was that he'd moved from the Jesus flick to the Book of Mormon madness, Lamanites and all that. Wack either way. And why isn't he releasing it Dec. 21, 2012, when the Mayans predicted the world would end? The Omen remakers had the good sense (if only in this one area) to take advantage of the sweet 6/6/06 release date.

― Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 3 March 2006 23:57 (twenty years ago)

I am reasonably certain that this is all a cover-up for the real Apocalypto movie:

Apocalypto the Superdog!

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:39 (twenty years ago)

To me, this is the ONLY film of 2006.

― melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:13 (twenty years ago)

I MEAN COME ON!

http://blackzarak.co.uk/adi/upload/upload_files/apocalypto.jpg

― melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:14 (twenty years ago)

This is probably going to be the best place to track this thing:

http://apocalyptowatch.blogspot.com/

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.americanpapist.com/apoc/header.png

Does the chap in the background play autoharp in this film?

― melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:35 (twenty years ago)

That picture (of him with the made-up people) is NOT REAL. I mean. I just. No.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 4 March 2006 03:15 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

"Attention! We are all dying here! We are all dying!"

― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't want to question this because I know damn well we don't live in a world of equal access for all but this bit:

Hundreds of local extras—many of whom have never seen a movie, let alone acted in one

I've seen again and again in press mentions now, and it makes it sound like his extras are some sorta freakin' noble savages.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:12 (twenty years ago)

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2006/0603/amapocalypto0319.jpg

MEL, WHERE'S YOUR BEARD?

Absence of facial hair is a worry, but I'm sure the man knows what he's doing. Or doesn't, as the case may be. Beardo or clean-shaven, he's still my hero.

― melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

if there was any justice in the world, this, snakes on a plane, and the ice cube welcome back, kotter film would be condensed into one brilliant film.

― stockholm cindy is a guy with a belly button piercing (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 19 March 2006 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Mel Gibson's APOCALYTPO SNAKES ON KOTTER!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 March 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

this is gonna be the best year ever

― stockholm cindy is a guy with a belly button piercing (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 19 March 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

JBROTM

― melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

if there was any justice in the world, this, snakes on a plane, and the ice cube welcome back, kotter film would be condensed into one brilliant film.

-- stockholm cindy is a guy with a belly button piercing (theundergroundhom...), March 19th, 2006.

otm! otm! otm!

― latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:47 (twenty years ago)

APOCALYPSO!

http://www.hipwax.com/music/M_fig/calyps04.jpg

― amateurist0, Monday, 20 March 2006 01:19 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/touchstone/apocalypto/large.html

Uhm.

Huh.

― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 28 April 2006 05:36 (twenty years ago)

Decemeber? When's that?

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 28 April 2006 10:09 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Mel's gunna donate to help folks rebuild in Veracruz

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 14 July 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Good for Mel, I guess.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 July 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen again and again in press mentions now, and it makes it sound like his extras are some sorta freakin' noble savages.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), March 19th, 2006.

Well, that'd make Gibson no worse than Werner Herzog

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 14 July 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

I seriously doubt that Burden of the Apocalypse is going to be ANYWHERE near as good though.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 July 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

A more interesting film that Mel will apparently be a part of: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478304/

― starke (starke), Saturday, 15 July 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

Is that Malick title for real?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 July 2006 07:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's a working title, but I wouldn't be surprised if he kept it. From what I read, Malick and Gibson are good friends.

― starke (starke), Saturday, 15 July 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

(If you meant title = the movie, then yeah, definitely real)

― starke (starke), Saturday, 15 July 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

well that looks ambitious.

― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 15 July 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't Mallick's next film due in about 2015?

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Sunday, 16 July 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I can't really tell if this is going to be any good. I DO think the world needs more awesome epic movies about pre-Columbian civilizations, I just have concerns about the awesomeness of this one.

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 16 July 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

"Gibson had originally cancelled the screenings but changed his mind and arrived wearing a mask and wig."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Am I wrong on so many levels for kind of sort of wanting to see this?

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Am I betraying both my Jewish heritage and my pretensions of taste?

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Does it really surprise you that this would be Mel Gibson's idea of a Hannukah movie?

-- Dan (Come On Now) Perry (djper...com), December 21st, 2005.

After everything since now I really want this to be the case!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Am I betraying both my Jewish heritage and my pretensions of taste?

Ancient Mayan Action Yarn > all sense of integrity.

So no.

― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Gibson had originally cancelled the screenings but changed his mind and arrived wearing a mask and wig."

how AMAZING would it be if Mel turned up in a Melton Mowbray mask and wig?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

For some reason when I first read that sentence I thought they meant he showed up in a MAYAN mask and wig.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

There's always chuckling in the theatre during the preview when the immortal title APOCALYPTO appears from out of the solar flare....

You just can't resist saying it out loud in the booming preview voice!

― paizuri-san (davidcorp), Monday, 25 September 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

The big sell begins.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

One of those is actor Edward James Olmos, a leading voice in Latino cultural affairs, who said he was invited by Gibson to an early screening. Olmos, who brought along his grown son, Bodie, said he was unprepared for what he saw.

"I was totally caught off guard," Olmos said in a recent phone interview from the set of "Battlestar Galactica" in Vancouver, Canada. "It's arguably the best movie I've seen in years. I was blown away."

Adama, nooooooooooooooooooooo!

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Fighting all those Cylons must have gotten to him. Or he raided Tighe's drinks cabinet.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

omg, that's exactly what i said!! whhhhyyyyy??
xpost

and then i srsly began to reconsider my take on this movie. even though i've laughed every time i've seen the preview. such is the hold battlestar has on me. damn.
also xpost

― rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I would do anything for Bill Adama, except watch Apocalypto.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

this is a great thread.

i am totally seeing this movie no matter what.

― researching ur life (grady), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

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I only saw it the once but thought it was pretty solid and ambitious and, more than most movies, tbh, memorable.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

Thoughts on representation? I thought of the way some have criticized Jodorowsky, Gilliam, George Miller, Herzog and Todd Browning for ruining a sympathetic portrayal with a sort of freak show gaze.

Two actors won Imagen awards (latino positive representation awards) and the film was nominated.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 September 2019 18:38 (six years ago)

Iirc whatever elements of that that exist in this are negated by the very last shot.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 18:48 (six years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pBZKj1VnA

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:46 (six years ago)

Apocalypto rules
I watched it at Catsupppp Dude’s apartment for those into ilx trivia

― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 6 September 2019 23:23 (six years ago)

omg, 25 minutes of a guy pointing out stuff like a tapir wheezes more than it shrieks.

don't tell me, a solar eclipse didn't really occur the day before conquistadors landed on the shore.

― pplains, Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:12 (six years ago)

Wild how this movie is actually good enough to make people overlook Mel Gibson's involvement

― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:15 (six years ago)

It’s about time somebody went on YouTube to point out the inaccuracies in movies, guy is a hero

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 7 September 2019 00:16 (six years ago)

everytime this thread gets bumped i misread it as mel brooks

― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 September 2019 01:25 (six years ago)

Yeah I wanted to hate this too but I thought it was amazing despite probably being historically inaccurate (if you go to chichen itza they spent a lot of time complaining about this film). I still hate Mel Gibson though.

― akm, Saturday, 7 September 2019 01:41 (six years ago)

It’s about time somebody went on YouTube to point out the inaccuracies in movies, guy is a hero

Seems kind of relevant given "thoughts on representation?" and a film made by a right-wing psycho trying to appear so accurate it's shot in a language most Americans don't know exists?

Do you though, bro, do you.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 7 September 2019 02:23 (six years ago)

yeah imo the critiques of this adventure movie in that dudes shrill 25min YouTube video are not quite as trenchant as he thinks they are, what can I say

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 7 September 2019 02:44 (six years ago)

if you go to chichen itza they spent a lot of time complaining about this film

― akm, Saturday, September 7, 2019 2:41 AM

To my shame, Scotland fucking loves Braveheart and takes it as fact. Or have we moved on from that?

The History Buffs guy has an annoying ranty "oh my god!" style but I liked and subscribed because I appreciate what he's doing generally.
In the case of Apocalypto, I'm skeptical of how sure he is of the lifestyle, clothes and architecture (couldn't there have been more variety?) and we aren't told for sure that when we see the Spanish arriving is their true first contact.

Then I watched the Braveheart video and I have heard most of the facts in there. Some speculations I didn't see in this video was that William Wallace killed lots of English civilians and might have spoken French a great deal of the time because Scottish nobles were apparently immersed in French culture (but I'm not a historian and my memory might not serve me well).

I like the idea of a more accurate Braveheart remake in which William Wallace (maybe) speaks French most of the time, (maybe) kills innocent civilians and gets a much more brutal death. But there perhaps aren't enough facts to make such a film unless it's a cinema documentary narrated by Ewan McGregor or Limmy.

And... I fear that today, any evils perpetrated by William Wallace would be defended by some of the audience. What if there were films about accurately brutal colonial history and massacre of native americans and it inspired nationalists and helped radicalize ordinary patriotic conservatives because they might feel a need to defend the atrocities?

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 7 September 2019 13:30 (six years ago)

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