Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

so not gonna happen

re Obama and down-ticket too, even the cautious-by-definition Nate Silver (among links here)thinks maaaybe:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/20/is-the-2012-election-tilting-toward-democrats/

so the democrats are gonna take the presidency the senat and the house now

cool just need to eliminate the filibuster on day one and were good to go

hallelujah, paradise arrives just 4 years late, good deal

wtf are they smoking?

the good shit man, always

izzat the stuff O-bam is taking away from clinics in Calif?

choom gang 4 lyfe

Don't they sort of have to match Republican toppermost of the October opti-mist

Awww Mr Starbursts of Joy getting puntured by commenters.

6. As Scott Wilson points out above, writing an article like this, now, is tremendously undisciplined and unhelpful. Do you have to publish, on a left-wing website, every single thing you think?

dow, it is unclear what factors have been moving the polls toward dems nationally, because there doesn't seem to be any news of any magnitude behind this, only a bunch of idiot statements by repubs like akin and romney, and maybe a growing familiarity with the ryan budget details. Consequently, since the move isn't based on anything much except a souring perception of repubs, those gains are very vulnerable to a barrage of negative ads against dems, which could lead to another souring of perception and a counter-shift.

politico is a 'left-wing website'?

The Corner.

haha oh right

wait'll they get a load of the bolsheviks over at the new republic

http://i.imgur.com/bwFHI.png

lmao what could this possibly even mean

That Chuck Schumer would like the infighting to start sooner rather than later

ha yes

yeah this is classic oppo shit-stirring

90s/Bush-era GOP sees writing on the wall, positioning itself to blame freshman class of 2010 for everything that's gone wrong, nevermind their own guilt in obstructionism and do-nothinghood which leaves the entire party vulnerable

3. "Texas Gov. Rick Perry has said it’s an 'injustice' that more people don’t pay income taxes." How is this wrong? Doesn't justice require that a person pay for what he gets, more or less? Government is justified, if at all, insofar it benefits each citizen.

I'm all for this, btw, if we make sure to include the value to each individual and their family of postponing the revolution for a year. I have a feeling income tax liabilities won't change appreciably.

Wonder if this kind of stuff will lead Obama/Biden to more rabble-rousing about Congress, really. Haven't heard quite as much on that, presumably because their narrative is "things are on track and getting better" but that could be amended "would have gotten better faster if not for all those clowns." I mean, if retaking the House is possible (though unlikely) makes more sense to aim for that goalpost, right?

yeah that's some pretty blatant shit stirring there. read a ponnuru thing a short while back that convincingly argued that the party will probably lurch further right post-election. of course schumer might be like the president and actually believe the gop will feel like taking some responsibility in governing, come to their senses, etc.

MOR Republicans wouldn't undercut whatever bargaining power they've got by making SCHUMER their spokesman.

Oh right – Schumer is an MOR Republican.

Schumer should take the next step and wave a piece of paper with the names of 12 GOP senators who say they'll tax the poor if Romney wins and support universal healthcare if Obama wins.

It's a "choice" election, you see

or the names of 12 GOP senators who say they'll pay taxes for the poor.

Mainstream GOP senators tell Chuck Schumer they'll come out as gay if Obama wins

i'm sure he's doing it for self-interested reasons, but it's also good for the country to tie the tea party to the upcoming election

fwiw everyone i did realize schumer was shit stirring i was just taking issue w/the delineation between mainstream and tea party, i mean sure maybe one knows better than to say all the crazy shit it believes in public but be srs the tea party is not some wild departure from just republican

It's actually really smart messaging, almost like the kind of thing Romney is trying and failing to do with "yeah, you voted for Obama but he let you down" - - - "Yeah, it's cool if you have Republican values, but you know who doesn't, these days? THE REPUBLICANS! Yup, they've been taken over by extremists!" Almost like a movie pitch. The GOP has been kidnapped by the Tea Party - are you a bad enough dude to vote for Obama?

well on one hand you've got schumer telling dems that the gop wants to cave on the whole obstructionist thing, and on the other he's telling republicans that some of them may already be democrats.

haha http://www.salon.com/2012/09/20/politico_politico_stories_dont_matter

but be srs the tea party is not some wild departure from just republican

well, a republican can be moderate, extremist, or anything in between. a tea partier is p much an extremist by definition.

there are no moderate republicans anymore, extinct, gone, zip, zilch, rip

Two or three people scurrying for an Obama photo right now.

there are no moderate republicans anymore, extinct, gone, zip, zilch, rip

^^^^

Rockefeller spinning in his gold-plated grave etc

i dunno, mitt as governor was fairly moderate (opportunistic, fine), and he wasn't alone. suspect that if tea party-style extremism comes to be seen as a losing strategy, a lot of moderate republicans will crawl out of the woodwork.

you mean like soon-to-be-loser President Scott Brown?

seriously these people don't exist anymore, they've been systematically drummed out of the party

there are plenty of self-described 'moderate' republican voters.

Mitt as governor was fairly moderate because he was in MA and the state legislature wouldn't let him be anything but moderate; he did spend a good amount of time during his term marching determinedly to the right on practically every social and economic position he campaigned on so his continued drift as a presidential candidate is absolutely no surprise

My rep is the most liberal GOP congressman when it comes to "social issues" but one of the worst Israel hawks in the Congress.

Right wings folks grouchy about this: http://www.threedonia.com/archives/55094

I have to admit that a lot of the Obama propaganda-style art is way ott and kind of o_O, but this doesn't seem like a bigger deal than anything else.

we talked about that right before lunch

My rep is the most liberal GOP congressman when it comes to "social issues" but one of the worst Israel hawks in the Congress.

lol if i didn't already know it i would still be thinking 'hmm Alfred must live in Miami'

missed it.

Liked this from the comments on that page, though.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7134318673_a84493db73_z.jpg

tbh there really aren't that many foreign policy 'moderates' in either party.

more democratic senators just openly fucking with people funnies:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/09/harry_reid_to_scott_brown_go_home.php

Harry Reid just canceled Senate votes for the rest of the day, claiming that Scott Brown was using pending Senate business as an excuse to dodge tonight’s debate with Elizabeth Warren. More soon …

reid and schumer may be on some pet sounds/sgt. peppers shit with these stunts

haa