Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

he left to become a financial industry lobbyist!

Definitely a more secure job at present.

not really relevant but since we brought her up

http://youtu.be/ZhCRPaxVV-k

0:10 "She's so hot. oh, I love Dana. She's on Twitter."

lol at "REMEMBER BREITBART" shirt

*arched eyebrow*

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/paul-ryan-calms-republicans-fear-not-the-polls.php

Also fun

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/john-boehner-media-presidential-race-romney.php

“They will try to make this about little things. We have taken all the tough votes and led,” he told House colleagues in the private meeting. “Here’s our commitment: we are going to make this about the big things. We need to go on offense and we need to give our constituents the choice of two futures.”

The conference gave Ryan a standing ovation at the end, the source told TPM.

little things... like Paul Ryan

Sounds like they're getting all up in a tizzy today:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81447.html?hp=f1

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81454.html?hp=l2

http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/09/three-house-gopers-wont-endorse-romney-136110.html?hp=f3

damage control/stop the bleeding

of course, we all know how highly the public prizes the opinions of congress lol

ok, these are awesome and i ordinarily don't go in for this kind of thing:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mai9l7T6Lu1rvl74fo1_500.jpg

http://romcom2012.tumblr.com/

I feel lost on this thread - what'd I miss earlier today?

Romney won the election.

Of course.

Gay Mormon marriages now legal in not-Utah. I think.

Chuck Schumer being himself:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/schumer-mainstream-republicans-planning-resurgence-obama.php

so not gonna happen

re Obama and down-ticket too, even the cautious-by-definition Nate Silver (among links here)thinks maaaybe:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/20/is-the-2012-election-tilting-toward-democrats/

so the democrats are gonna take the presidency the senat and the house now

cool just need to eliminate the filibuster on day one and were good to go

hallelujah, paradise arrives just 4 years late, good deal

wtf are they smoking?

the good shit man, always

izzat the stuff O-bam is taking away from clinics in Calif?

choom gang 4 lyfe

Don't they sort of have to match Republican toppermost of the October opti-mist

Awww Mr Starbursts of Joy getting puntured by commenters.

6. As Scott Wilson points out above, writing an article like this, now, is tremendously undisciplined and unhelpful. Do you have to publish, on a left-wing website, every single thing you think?

dow, it is unclear what factors have been moving the polls toward dems nationally, because there doesn't seem to be any news of any magnitude behind this, only a bunch of idiot statements by repubs like akin and romney, and maybe a growing familiarity with the ryan budget details. Consequently, since the move isn't based on anything much except a souring perception of repubs, those gains are very vulnerable to a barrage of negative ads against dems, which could lead to another souring of perception and a counter-shift.

politico is a 'left-wing website'?

The Corner.

haha oh right

wait'll they get a load of the bolsheviks over at the new republic

http://i.imgur.com/bwFHI.png

lmao what could this possibly even mean

That Chuck Schumer would like the infighting to start sooner rather than later

ha yes

yeah this is classic oppo shit-stirring

90s/Bush-era GOP sees writing on the wall, positioning itself to blame freshman class of 2010 for everything that's gone wrong, nevermind their own guilt in obstructionism and do-nothinghood which leaves the entire party vulnerable

3. "Texas Gov. Rick Perry has said it’s an 'injustice' that more people don’t pay income taxes." How is this wrong? Doesn't justice require that a person pay for what he gets, more or less? Government is justified, if at all, insofar it benefits each citizen.

I'm all for this, btw, if we make sure to include the value to each individual and their family of postponing the revolution for a year. I have a feeling income tax liabilities won't change appreciably.

Wonder if this kind of stuff will lead Obama/Biden to more rabble-rousing about Congress, really. Haven't heard quite as much on that, presumably because their narrative is "things are on track and getting better" but that could be amended "would have gotten better faster if not for all those clowns." I mean, if retaking the House is possible (though unlikely) makes more sense to aim for that goalpost, right?

yeah that's some pretty blatant shit stirring there. read a ponnuru thing a short while back that convincingly argued that the party will probably lurch further right post-election. of course schumer might be like the president and actually believe the gop will feel like taking some responsibility in governing, come to their senses, etc.

MOR Republicans wouldn't undercut whatever bargaining power they've got by making SCHUMER their spokesman.

Oh right – Schumer is an MOR Republican.

Schumer should take the next step and wave a piece of paper with the names of 12 GOP senators who say they'll tax the poor if Romney wins and support universal healthcare if Obama wins.

It's a "choice" election, you see

or the names of 12 GOP senators who say they'll pay taxes for the poor.

Mainstream GOP senators tell Chuck Schumer they'll come out as gay if Obama wins

i'm sure he's doing it for self-interested reasons, but it's also good for the country to tie the tea party to the upcoming election

fwiw everyone i did realize schumer was shit stirring i was just taking issue w/the delineation between mainstream and tea party, i mean sure maybe one knows better than to say all the crazy shit it believes in public but be srs the tea party is not some wild departure from just republican

It's actually really smart messaging, almost like the kind of thing Romney is trying and failing to do with "yeah, you voted for Obama but he let you down" - - - "Yeah, it's cool if you have Republican values, but you know who doesn't, these days? THE REPUBLICANS! Yup, they've been taken over by extremists!" Almost like a movie pitch. The GOP has been kidnapped by the Tea Party - are you a bad enough dude to vote for Obama?

well on one hand you've got schumer telling dems that the gop wants to cave on the whole obstructionist thing, and on the other he's telling republicans that some of them may already be democrats.

haha http://www.salon.com/2012/09/20/politico_politico_stories_dont_matter

but be srs the tea party is not some wild departure from just republican

well, a republican can be moderate, extremist, or anything in between. a tea partier is p much an extremist by definition.

there are no moderate republicans anymore, extinct, gone, zip, zilch, rip