Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

pave the way for a democratic win in 16 via inevitable economic recovery

lagoonneb

― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:37 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is just super basic economics, politics good doctor

Well, Gore lost in 2000 before the recession hit.

gore totally had the way paved for him but couldnt convert

btw guys, how are you celebrating Gerald-Ford-Trapped-In-An-Elevator Day?

http://underthebutton.com/blog/wp-content/imagescaler/c59a7bfd5b669eea92539c45c296a864.jpg

which goes out the window if one thinks 2008 was a preview of an epochal tsunami, good goonie

xxxp

for living in the richest country theres ever been americans have a terrible attitude

lmao @ ford

nobody can really predict the economy, not even the people who get paid to predict the economy, but slow growth / another large recession in the next 4 years is pretty unlikely from a historical perspective

actually i can predict the economy fyi

have you considered daytrading

guys guys, show some respect

27 years ago, President Ford was stuck in an elevator

its true we need to put our differences aside

glad he wasnt permanently trapped in that elevator btw

he was no longer prez, they could've had the state funeral in the lobby

what was Ford doing at a library?

inspecting elevators

have you considered daytrading

― iatee, Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:29 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im daytrading right now i will trade u monday for saturday HAW

The question is how many times he tripped and fell over in the elevator.

http://www.sylvianism.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/11.jpg

one of the great dumb presidential myths

but hey it ended up giving chevy chase a bad back, so, bonus

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2007/07/24/va1237505082262/Republican-presidential-candidate-Bob-Dole-falls-to-5580657.jpg

ow, damn

my pen

Poor Dole. I thought the dude was funny.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/09/and-now-weirdest-excerpt-romney-video

Audience member: How are you going to win if 54 percent of the voters think China's economy is bigger than ours? Or if it costs 4 cents to make a penny and we keep making pennies? Canada got it right a month ago. Why isn't someone saying, "Stop making pennies, round it to the nearest nickel?" You know, that's an easy thing, compared to Iran. I want to see you take the gloves off and talk to people that actually read the paper and read the book and care about knowing the facts and acknowledges power. As opposed to people who are swayed by, you know, what sounds good at the moment. If you turned it into like, "Eat what you kill," it'd be a landslide. In my humble opinion.

So when millionaires get together in private, they talk about pennies.

my pen

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:44 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh

tbh if romney ran on an eliminate the penny platform id prob vote for him

lol Shakey

except you dont round to the nearest nickel you round to the... dime!

So when millionaires get together in private, they talk about pennies.

Misread last word as penises. Waiting for that part of the tape.

i don't know where to schaden my freude on this one:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/seeking-a-truce-on-the-links/?partner=rss&emc=rss

President Obama has never seemed particularly perturbed by Republicans’ attacks on the frequency of his golf outings. But for the golf industry, the politics of golf is not just a game.

“Please reconsider your political strategy of criticizing President Obama’s passion for golf,” was the request in a letter to Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, from a group called We Are Golf that arrived in his office on Tuesday.

hahaha omg

AMEN

WE ARE THE GOLF

Barack Obama Is Having Fun

this is no topic to be playing politics with!

Republicans criticizing golf feels so unnatural. Is there nothing we can count on in this mixed-up world?

Hmm, another one:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/dean-heller-i-dont-view-world-like-romney

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/how-is-mitt-romneys-mr-fix-it-image-holding-up/2012/09/19/4fb0378a-0276-11e2-8102-ebee9c66e190_blog.html

down-ticket candidates repudiating the pres nominee is def an omen of how bad Romney is doing, that shit is crazy

tbf two out of the three are in heavily democratic states and the third is in one projected to be carried by obama, but still

Nate Silver ‏@fivethirtyeight
The. Polls. Have. Stopped. Making. Any. Sense.

dude... dude

we broke nate silver =(

I see Shakey has finally succeeded in undermining the entire system of polling. Good on him!

nate keeps running the model over and over again but somehow sarah palin keeps coming up as the president

This right-winger to right-wingers explanation of the polls as of the 17th is pretty entertaining. But it probably won't convince most of 'em.

So why is Obama doing so well in the polls, if increased public dependency on government isn’t the answer?

For starters, the public at large isn’t as convinced as conservatives that he has been a dismal failure. Most people cut him some slack because of the economic crisis that began under a Republican president and kept unfolding as Obama took office. They know that the economy has changed direction. Some people think the economy has done about as well as it could have under the circumstances.

Another reason Obama is doing well might have to do with the weakness of the Republican economic message. Republicans dwell on the heroic entrepreneur held back by taxes and regulation, which must be part of the story that a free-market party tells. But most people don’t see themselves in that storyline, any more than they see themselves as dependents of the federal government. They don’t see Americans as divided between makers and takers.

To the extent Republicans do, they’re handicapping themselves.

(Ramesh Ponnuru is a Bloomberg View columnist and a senior editor at National Review

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-17/the-right-is-wrong-to-pin-obama-s-edge-on-welfare-state.html

Nate Silver ‏@fivethirtyeight
The. Polls. Have. Stopped. Making. Any. Sense.

Did something weird happen today? I haven't had a chance to check.

different polls giving wildly different results - both between different national polls and between national + state polls