Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

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this is not really uncharacteristic or an unusual thing for Romney, he's been fucking up with these kinds of tone-deaf gaffes literally since day 1 of his campaign. to wit:

The choice of the Bittersweet Farm for his announcement is an interesting one for Mr. Romney, who regularly argues for a smaller federal government that spends less. The rolling green hills of the farm were preserved in recent years in part with $1 million in federal money, according to a recent report in Seacoast Online.

A spokesman for Mr. Romney’s campaign told John Harwood of The New York Times: “I don’t think it’s fair to call it a federally subsidized backdrop. It’s a nice farm in New Hampshire, a landmark.”

this clown is so doomed

― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, June 2, 2011 8:09 PM

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

that is the one thing he's got going for him here, just shrugging it off and hoping that whoever the heck is still on Team Romney is desensitized to his nonsensical bullshit

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

If I cared about tell all political campaign books I'd be excited about the one about the Romney campaign.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ap_mitt_romney_ll_120806_wg.jpg

"If I cared about tell all political campaign books I'd be excited about the one about my campaign."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i see the most egregious 'gaffe' (ugh that word)

the use of 'gaffe' over the past 48 hours is crazy to me, like they're talking about it like he slipped up on the stairs up to the platform rather than cogently expressed his disdain for american voters

let's get the banned back together (schlump), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i think avoiding letterman/snl/the view is romney's wisest recent political decision

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

apropos of nothing but
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_makiy4e0MJ1qdmmiqo1_500.gif
he's saying,

LET'S DESTROY THE ENVIRONMENT

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

and Toontown

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)

Speaking of which, Obama's on Letterman tonight to do the second half of Jay Pharoah's "Hey, take a look at my secret weapon" routine.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

wish obama could bring this up in a debate, but then it would look like he was being mean to money-sucking bible hicks:

Of the 22 states that went to McCain in 2008, 86 percent received more federal spending than they paid in taxes in 2010. In contrast, 55 percent of the states that went to Obama received more federal spending than they paid in taxes. Republican states, on average, received $1.46 in federal spending for every tax dollar paid; Democratic states, on average, received $1.16.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

Equivalence on the "guns and religion" thing is a farce. Obama was making an accusation about some people being reactionary. People sometimes are reactionary. He didn't say only conservatives are reactionary.

Romney said half of the country are unwilling to take responsibility for themselves.

timellison, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

the one thing obama CAN do during a debate is point out that EVERYONE in this country relies on government. for, like, almost everything. unless they live in a unabomber cabin and trap their meat. and more specifically that romney made millions because of a tax code loophole. he can bring that up, right?

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

I suspect Obama realizes that looking aggressive works against him, and so he will mostly just wait for Romney to put his foot in his mouth, as he inevitably will

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

the main equivalency w/guns n religion is that obama was talking to donors about OTHER people, not in the room, in unflattering terms, just like romney has here but yes agreed, at least obama didn't say something as nut-crushingly callous as "my job is not to care about them" as romney went on to do

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

i'm surprised there's so little furore over the line about how he'd be doing better in this campaign if his dad were mexican, that is just such an insane thing to say

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

the one thing obama CAN do during a debate is point out that EVERYONE in this country relies on government. for, like, almost everything. unless they live in a unabomber cabin and trap their meat. and more specifically that romney made millions because of a tax code loophole. he can bring that up, right?

last time he did brought us "you didn't build that"

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

there are really so many potential furors in this thing, not shocking the one where he flips off HALF the United States, rather than another country or a smaller (though still significant) section of America is getting the most attention.

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

to his face though. would be different. actually say that mitt made his money because he manipulated the tax code. to his face. tell mitt he should be thanking the federal government every day.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

make him look like the biggest welfare motherfucker on the planet.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

it's going to be hard for Obama to NOT call out a moment of hypocrisy in Mitt, since there will be so many. there basically isn't a single political topic mitt is genuine or consistent on. but going ham has a lot of risks.

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

you don't want to push romney into going full psychotic bc who knows what he'll do

Mordy, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

obama doesn't go ham but he is an expert in cold cuts

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

everything he said made perfect sense in that milieu. of course he believes that having money is proof of virtue. of course he did it all himself with no help from daddy or the government or the rabble. of course being a rich white man from a rich white family was no advantage -- he had to fight past all those affirmative action candidates who were given a leg up.

romney may or may not believe this, although he probably does. but certainly his audience did and does.

this is what stunned me about chait saying he was 'shocked' -- this is everyday shit. ppl made such a fuss about todd akin, but he just said out loud, awkwardly, what is in the fucking republican platform.

if the republican agenda specifically stated that non-whites should be sanctioned with extreme prejudice, the media would ignore it until some cracker state senator started yelling about darkies. then it would be unseemly, and therefore, news.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

mitt has terrible teeth. does he just not brush or what

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

is is what stunned me about chait saying he was 'shocked' -- this is everyday shit. ppl made such a fuss about todd akin, but he just said out loud, awkwardly, what is in the fucking republican platform.

The comments on the GOP-penned posts to which we've linked today agree!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

chait wasn't shocked that a GOPer would think these things - he just took Mitt for an idiot rather than an asshole.

da croupier, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

more of a "whichever way the wind blows, let it not be said I don't also blow" kind of politician

da croupier, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

then he is curiously naive

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

but mitt it would actually be your actual job to worry about those people

let's get the banned back together (schlump), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

i'm surprised there's so little furore over the line about how he'd be doing better in this campaign if his dad were mexican, that is just such an insane thing to say

This x1000

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:10 (thirteen years ago)

unabomber now gets 100% government entitlements now, funny enough.

pplains, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

mittens u sly dog

The GOP presidential candidate said he did not mean to write off nearly half the electorate. Instead, he was merely stating the fact that they support the president's "more European than American" outlook on wealth redistribution.

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

unabomber not paying any income tax, fer sure

Aimless, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

must be an obama supporter

pplains, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

some of the coverage is beginning to read like one of Didion's 80s/early-90s political pieces

At an airport in Salt Lake City, Kevin Madden, a senior adviser, waved a group of reporters over to look at his iPhone. It displayed a headline in the Romney-friendly Drudge Report about a poll that showed the presidential race tightening.

A few hours later, Mr. Romney’s staff members summoned a handful of reporters to watch him carry four of his young grandchildren across a tarmac here and onto his plane for a tour.

But the video kept coming up anyway. When pressed, Mr. Madden offered a relentlessly on-message reply to questions about the candidate’s mood and reaction to the drip-drip-drip release of the fund-raiser footage by Mother Jones magazine.

“We’re still focused,” he said. “This is an election that is focused on the economy. It’s focused on the direction of the country.”

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

Political fictions.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

i'm surprised there's so little furore over the line about how he'd be doing better in this campaign if his dad were mexican, that is just such an insane thing to say

This x1000

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:10 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

I would wager that most white americans, even if it was just a lil' tiny bit, have considered themselves the victim of 'reverse racism' in the past

barthes simpson, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, but most americans are idiots. more than half the country at least. if not more.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

i love them all though.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

"I'm not saying that you and your family are a piece of shit. I'm saying that if you and your family aren't a piece of shit, then the family next door is."

pplains, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/2igdf.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

I saved a copy of that pic, in case it vanishes once the originator understands she looks like a complete fool.

Aimless, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)

that picture should be on the dollar bill.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvLeQbwuKys

Has this been out long? Didn't know about it until just now. I've never been much of a Randy Newman fan--I tried--and truthfully, this doesn't hold much interest for me as music. But it does get at something--if it's new, I'm sure it will get some attention.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

^^ It doesn't seem especially fresh or keen to me, certainly not enough to make a dime's worth of difference to the election.

Aimless, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 01:23 (thirteen years ago)

ugh. he shouldn't post stuff when he's drunk.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 01:24 (thirteen years ago)

sail away 2012. he's the worst. wish he would sail away.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)

his voice sucks and the music sucks and the lyrics are trite but other than that i really like his "sly" "subtle" message that he hits me over the head with until my brains are leaking out my ears.

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

It's "Sail Away" in a different context, so no, it's not new, but the sentiment's out there, and since no one else has put it to song yet--or at least not in those words--I give him credit.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 01:28 (thirteen years ago)


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