2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

xposts Uneasiness is good. Complacency will bite on the ass every time.

Just got off a call with DC friend whose ex-Clinton staffer hubby thinks HRC needs to get out ASAP for reasons of 'legacy preservation' - the campaign has done nothing so much as remind people about what was wrong with Clintons rather than what was right. Friend has voted across spectrum and thinks McCain = OLD whenever people see him and she hasn't had a look at that Popeye photo yet.

Oh and what a great LGBT policy statement - I agree with him on the whole 'civil union not actual marriage' thing - perhaps from Constitutional law perspective it can be argued that marriage = religion and civil unions = state? Keep it separated, yo?

from Constitutional law perspective it can be argued that marriage = religion and civil unions = state

this has always seemed like the logical solution to me and I don't understand why its never really clearly spelled out this way (apart from homophobes demand to conflate the two, which goes hand-in-hand with their gay marriage will lead to me marrying a box turtle claims, etc.)

I think it would be kind of funny if Shakey married a box turtle, so I support gay marriage.

Dan Lacey could make the invite.

all these years the law has been holding me back

OBAMA '08: He'll let Shakey shack up with Myrtle.

Sad face on Yertle.

http://zenandjuice.com/word/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/drawme.jpg

I now pronounce you...

lolposts, esp THOSE LIL GUYS.

Yeah, here in YURP you can't even invoke your deity remix at the town hall or bring God into the proceedings at all. Even in Britain with its state religion angle!

Another thing to do is to get God off the money and the Pledge of Allegiance for the same Constitutional reasons; these were only sprinkled with religious pixie dust during McCarthy. And in my aggressively secular high school with its even split of Catholics, Jews and Protestants we were always 'one nation, indivisible' without recourse to God. 90 per cent of students were believers and nobody had a cow, amazing...

But suzy people FOUGHT and DIED for that money.

thats not gonna happen

i dont think obama gives a shit about those debates

My dad last night on McCain being a hero for not leaving captivity early: "So he's a hero because he followed the rules?" (My dad being a vet, fwiw.)

WHY I AM NOT PRESIDENT PART 3455564

One thing that totally impresses me about Obama is his ability to make a good case for resolution of a heretofore controiversial issue sensibly, using very measured language.

xpost with privileged people grafting/following the rules there's always this thing of OMG they did it like *us* have a cookie please.

Can someone repost Popeye for me? I'm scared to do a reload...

Never mind, Popeye found and despatched to insider on maternity leave!

I know not being in a contested race anymore puts him at a disadvantage but wow mccain only raised $12M in February vs. $35M for Hillary and I think close to $50M for Obama

How many college professors have we had as presidents? Woodrow Wilson, maybe?

How many faculty brats have we had as a president? Would Obama be the first?

wait when was Eisenhower prez of Columbia?

right before he was prez.

McCain not exactly running away from Hagee .... pretty weak stuff here

"Yesterday, Pastor John Hagee endorsed my candidacy for president in San Antonio, Texas. However, in no way did I intend for his endorsement to suggest that I in turn agree with all of Pastor Hagee's views, which I obviously do not.
"I am hopeful that Catholics, Protestants and all people of faith who share my vision for the future of America will respond to our message of defending innocent life, traditional marriage, and compassion for the most vulnerable in our society."

if obama said that re: farrakhan he'd be dead in the water

difference is Obama can easily afford to alienate the radical black muslim community. McCain has no such wiggle room when it comes to evangelicals.

the other difference is the persecution of jews is on a much grander scale in modern times than persecution of catholics

haha yeah that too

PAPISTS!

hey according to Hagee the jews only have themselves to blame

"It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God's chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day....
How utterly repulsive, insulting, and heartbreaking to God for His chosen people to credit idols with bringing blessings He had showered upon the chosen people. Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.... it rises from the judgment of God uppon his rebellious chosen people."

(sorry for just c+p'ing half of talking points memo the last couple posts .... slow day at work)

I always suspected God was an anti-semite

YEEEEEELAAAAOW! EASY THERE!

also hi dere isn't this what we're talking about when we say OBAMA WANTS TO BOMB PAKISTAN

???

DAMN - http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/29/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html

Is that really that "DAMN"-worthy?

LOL, certainly, PWN, maybe, but DAMN?

I thought it was funny

they are gettin kinda cocky .... not even trying to manage expectations anymore, that guy and Plouffe are basically saying "this is over on Tuesday"

hope they're right

When's the last time Penn got a zing in like that?

its basic math

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I mean no way is Clinton going to win either state by double digits, and that's what she would need to just pull even with his delegate count. When she doesn't get that, there will be HUGE pressure from the party for her to concede.

*BREAKING* HIGHLY INFLUENCIAL SUPERDELEGATE SWITCHES TO OBAMA'S SIDE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0BPwWAxnk

Is that really that "DAMN"-worthy?

i thought it was. perhaps you missed the reference - http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/29/the_phone_is_ringing.html

Whoever said this was the ZINGingest campaign ever was dead on.

Hillary to do The Daily Show Monday night. Have her staffers not been watching the show lately? Won't this probably do her more harm than good?

they should offer her as many pillows as she wants

fully expecting a phone-call-mid-interview gag

o wow obama campaign already has thier own "3am phonecall"

that is fucking fast

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/02/obama_launches_2.html

just came here to post about it xp

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/pregnant_pause.html

Your headline said "Pregnant" another anti-feminist post!

just another dem | 02.29.08 05:35 PM

Come on Hillary, pack it in, try to get yourself a job on Obama's cabinet or you'll end up with nothing at all.