Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

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bibi acting as arm of romney campaign is bad enough

goole, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

i'm not sure they don't depict what the "right-wing websites" say they do.

Yeah I know you're not sure, and I'm not sure, and goole's not sure. But people who are actually there seem surer.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

fyi, bibi no longer meets w/ romney campaign. israeli government does not believe romney can win. xp

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

er, our favorite right wing website has been licking its chops for the last two hours.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

btw the embassy didn't issue a "statement" last night -- it was a damn tweet!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

bibi vs bibby woops

will this man please stop trying to hijack the election to serve his sinister purposes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/MikeBibbyMiamiHeat.jpg/220px-MikeBibbyMiamiHeat.jpg

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

I don't want to post them here, but they look like that description. That his dead body is being dragged through the street.

The one that I saw looked like he was being rushed to a medic (and that he was already pretty much gone.)

Sure as hell didn't look like Mogadishu.

pplains, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

Wow -- most of the bipartisan foreign policy establishment condemns Romney.

And Boehner's statement is terser and more politically astute than Romney's.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't looked at the photos (and I'm not going to) but I sort of assume dragged through the street = being rushed to the hospital. these are not mutually exclusive...?

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

you can't be ignorant of what that phrase means

goole, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

i guess the question is whether he's dead in the photos. he looks terrible but i have no way of knowing for sure.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

uh - have u seen the photos? i'm not sure they don't depict what the "right-wing websites" say they do.

― Mordy, Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:35 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've seen two photos, and they don't show anything like what the wingnuts say they do.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, you could interpret it the way you want to interpret it, but it's not some sort of slam-dunk evidence of being dragged through the street.

pplains, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

honestly, what's the difference? it's not like if his dead body was dragged through the street it would make the attack any more barbaric. this is nitpicking at the edges.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

honestly, what's the difference? it's not like if his dead body was dragged through the street it would make the attack any more barbaric. this is nitpicking at the edges.

― Mordy, Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it absolutely would make it more barbaric wtf

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

and you brought it up!

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

It's a refutation to any right-wing wacko who tries to use the photos of this man's last moments as some sort of evidence that he was quartered by a rabid mob of Mooslems.

pplains, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

i didn't bring it up -- goole did iirc. i went to look at the photos when he mentioned them and it looked like what he was claiming wingnuts said. so i mentioned that. i don't have a stake in it one way or the other.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

rabid mob! when we all know this was a peaceful mob that accidentally hugged too tight.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

yeah def. seems like you have no stake in it

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

According to reports, the photos accurately show him being carried away. Not dragged, and it sounds like it was by Libyans trying to rescue him.

pplains, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

well, the stake of not being an idiot i guess

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://urbantitan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/pope.jpg

omg look at the pope being dragged through the streets.

pplains, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

remember when those soldiers were carried through the streets of mogadishu, with their shoes dragging on the street, never 4get

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

The photos could possibly be called "ambiguous" if you were being pointedly ungenerous.

how's life, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

Yesterday's talk radio comments on mundane campaign issues are now no longer getting attention. Like this:

Leading conservative talk show hosts Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham are both arguing that the Republican party will or should be shut down if Mitt Romney loses in November — an idea that, however hard to believe, gives you an indication of the right wing’s dissatisfaction with the Republican party.
“If you can’t beat Barack Obama with this record, then shut down the party. Shut it down, start new, with new people. Because this is a gimme election, or at least it should be,” Ingraham said on her radio program yesterday. “Election after election, we hire people who have lost previous campaigns, who have run campaigns that have failed, who have messaged campaigns where the message fell flat, and they keep getting re-hired.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/09/rightwing-radio-romney-loses-gop-dies-135205.html

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure they said the same thing four years ago.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)

btw the embassy didn't issue a "statement" last night -- it was a damn tweet!

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:49 AM (29 minutes ago)

Right, even before the incident the statements in question were tweets. Some of them were deleted, but here's a screenshot of exactly what Romney's criticism was leveled at:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2012/09/us-embassy-in-egypt-deletes-tweets-condemning-anti-muslim-film.html

timellison, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

OK, there was a press release that's linked on that page, too. There's nothing "apologetic" about it:

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

timellison, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

Who cares? Mitt and Palin and Reince Priebus are spinning a narrative. Reality makes no difference.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

"Reince Priebus" sounds like the birth name of an X-Man whose mutant ability is to turn into an electric car.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

How does one pronounce 'Reince'?

ella fingerblast hurls forever (suzy), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

R-eye-nce

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

Mitt and Reince, just ordinary people, representing real Americans!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

Missing Michael Steele pretty hard these days. :(

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/msteele-v2.gif

pplains, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

Like Ryan-ce?? Man, and I thought that guy who ended up on Queer Eye was weird when he introduced himself--"Like Ryan, but with a K."

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

reyonce

TOP FEMALE LAWYER & CARTOONIST FOR 2011: (donna rouge), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

runts

goole, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'm going to keep calling him "Prince Rebus" so it's not like it matters.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

Like Ryan-ce??

Yeah.

I'm going to keep calling him "Prince Rebus" so it's not like it matters.

We all should.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

reyonce

― TOP FEMALE LAWYER & CARTOONIST FOR 2011: (donna rouge)

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

Big Baby Priebus

NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

More remarks from the Establishment (anonymous, of course):

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/foreign-policy-hands-voice-disbelief-at-romney-cai

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:08 (thirteen years ago)

Rance Muhammitz

Moodles, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

reyonce

goin with this one

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

pissed:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/09/obama-temperament-attack-for-romney.html

:23 of video

goole, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

Hey, you know what would defuse this whole situation? Gratuitous rape comparisons.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/09/kyl-compares-cairo-embassy-tweet-blaming-rape-victim/56794/

JoeStork, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/12/romneys_canny_sympathy_smear/

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

Just catching up with all the fallout. My own first reaction this morning, and I know this is awful, was "Will this affect the election?"--would it be the one unexpected thing that always seems to happen. Reading through all the commentary here, I take it that Romney really messed up. I tuned in to a few minutes of right-wing radio on the way home, and of course it was "Carter-hostage crisis-Carter-hostage crisis" (the contention being that Obama's even weaker). That was strangely reassuring.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:37 (thirteen years ago)


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