Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

So it's basically that she's deflecting policy questions except for the one area where she can unleash a few talking points.

I've conceded that it's hypocritical.

I don't really see gay marriage/birth control as being equivalent to the use of drones. Almost everyone (even Anne Romney I am guessing) has an opinion about the former and both are part of the Republican Party platform (whereas I think most people in both parties would be happy if we not talk about the latter--at least while a Dem is in office anyway). That said if Michelle was out there campaigning on Barack "MAKING US ALL SAFE" I totally think it would be fair game to ask her "hey so how do you feel about assassinating US citizens without due process" cuz you are putting yourself out there.

I don't have an answer for this, but if she did unexpectedly get such a question from an interviewer she had probably assumed was friendly, do you think she'd answer it or deflect it? My guess would be the latter. I don't know.

drones are for aborting terrorists duh

"do you think she'd answer it or deflect it?"

Well I think she'd do a better job of deflecting it than saying "that's not important, I've talked to people and I KNOW what's important" if she chose the latter option.

my guess is that a) she'd handle it a million times better, because she has a lot more poise and is more articulate than Ann Romney

Agree.

smarter too

That too. She's got a story, because of overcoming her health problems, but she doesn't seem especially cut out for this--that's why I found it hard to watch.

Rachel Maddow had a thing yesterday about Constitution Party presidential candidate Virgil Goode polling as high as 9% in Virginia and GOP questioning the petitions he completed to get on the ballot. Sec. of State investigating it is a Romney campaigner.

Romney was on Meet the Press this morning. Not an especially agressive interview, but he was as ineffectual as ever. The whole time he had a fearful half-smile frozen on his face, like this was the most painful experience imaginable. He wouldn't name one tax loophole that he'd close--you'd think it would be basic that he'd have a few on standby that no one would disagree with. The weirdest answer was where he said that doing the auto bailout earlier, like he wanted to, would have saved $20 billion that could have gone back into cops and teachers and firefighters...back into stimulus?! Ryan was on This Week, but I mostly drifted through that.

oh, and he came out for the "good parts" of obamacare. that should be fun.

He wouldn't name one tax loophole that he'd close--you'd think it would be basic that he'd have a few on standby that no one would disagree with.

srsly, this guy

He seems to be clutching at straws. I don't think there's a clear strategy happening.

swinging wildly from right wing appeasement to centrist pandering

On NBC’s “Meet The Press,” Romney dodged multiple questions about which deductions or credits he’d target, saying only that he’ll get rid of “some of the loopholes and deductions at the high end” while seeking to “lower the burden on middle income people.”

Pressed for one specific example, Romney replied, “Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy.”

Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy

he sounds like palin

only dumber

“Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy.”

ahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa

i have a hard time even reading that sentence it makes so little sense, kudos romneybot

Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify savings, individual building meter data will need to be obtained from the campus

Half expect him to start talking about utility data for the entire campus.

It's amazing that this campaign will lie about anything, even stupid, trivial, inconsequential things: http://www.americablog.com/2012/09/romney-campaign-caught-lying-about.html

Well, the lies are these which is those principles he described at the heart of his policy.

As long as the papers are writing about those lies rather than the blatant incoherence of "the specifics are these..." I'm sure they are fine with it.

It's amazing that this campaign will lie about anything, even stupid, trivial, inconsequential things: http://www.americablog.com/2012/09/romney-campaign-caught-lying-about.html

― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Sunday, September 9, 2012 1:09 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so dumb! who would ever believe that!

The media is pointing out all the time that if Obama wins with this economy, he'll defy historical precedent. (They give a pass to Reagan in '84, since the economy was on an upswing.) One thing I don't hear, though, is that if Romney pulls it out, he'll surely defy historical precedent too: has anybody ever won running this inept a campaign? I'd be hard-pressed to name one thing they've clearly done well so far. (After Rubio's blah speech at the convention, maybe Ryan was the right pick after all--of course, Ryan's speech turned out to be a big problem itself.) They make one unforced error after another. If Romney were running a really well executed campaign, I think he could probably get a pass on the likeability problem. Maybe the two are inseparable.

theyve raised money v well

True enough. They seem to be saving a lot of it for the last month--that may turn out to be another mistake (or may not).

it seems like an obvious mistake imho

Well a lot of that Romney couldn't use until he was officially nominated so it wasn't available to him until last week.

has anybody ever won running this inept a campaign?

I still can't believe GWB won another term. Dude was incoherent during the debates, also ran on squishy facts and had a veep people hated more than Paul Ryan.

In hindsight, it all makes sense with the war, the wars and all the wars and stuff. Plus he ran against John Kerry, so Bush had that going for him.

I didn't follow '04 as closely as the last two, but the one thing they did well was caricature Kerry (who obviously helped in that regard). Some of it, like the Swiftboat stuff, was scurrilous, and some, like the windsurfing, was silly, but it did work.

http://twitpic.com/aswlo7

Could be an Onion 'shop

Fits their Wild Joe Biden universe so well

Oh, dear. We've eaten in that diner, at that very table.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/09/obama-picked-up-photo_n_1868870.html

"Look at that!" Obama exclaimed once back on firm ground. "Man are you a powerlifter or what?"

flattering voters will get you votes

see weve reached the horsin around in diners section of the campaign

This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify savings, individual building meter data will need to be obtained from the campus

First of all, these data were , not this data was. These apples. This apple. These data. This datum. Secondly, you're asking for individual building meter data so you can monitor our electricity use and send us to reeducation camps and call in the black helicopters you fascist dystopia summoner of the end times?!,!!!?!?

If you allow the datum/data thing to bother you, you will die a frustrated old man. Americans have decided data is a collective noun, like rice, water or flour, denoting a undifferentiated mass. In the process they discarded the word datum altogether, as being too foreign to assimilate.

cool rule of thumb, if youre using a word in english its an english word, therefor pluralise englishwise, datas

^^^ this, far and away.

Just as a side note, coffee and water used to be noncount nouns, but have since switched over to count nouns.

one....two....AH AH AH

God DAMN America!!!

Just as a side note, coffee and water used to be noncount nouns, but have since switched over to count nouns.

― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Sunday, September 9, 2012 5:37 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it'd be more precise to say that the words have new senses where they are count-nouns. So they're both.

u could say theyre abbreviations of a cup of coffee and a bottle of water