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which doesn't answer the question, I suppose, except I know him to be fairly liberal in person.

i have started to read the paper but yes you would be right about that as a general observation

i just don't understand how people keep track of it all it's so much

Breathing air is a political act. It depends on how engage you want to be.

i always feel like i'm not savvy enough to step into the sandlot of political conversation, like what am i gonna say

It's not worth trying to compete or keep up with David Brooks.

i admire that, surm, but only because most political conversation makes me want to barf

I'm a TV journalist at heart. Liberal-esque, but non-committal and easily dazzled by empty talking points.

i'm a neo-makhnovian anarcho-communo-syndicalist

by crusty but benign old men who are a cross between Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr and Zorba the Greek

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You needn't bother to read them, I'll tell them to you.

im pretty liberal, tho definitely more center compared to morbs and tabes. prob even alfred too. i've considered not voting this year. i still might not. no one i know IRL would do that, tho (except maybe out of rank laziness).

i can't vote because i'm not a citizen of your country

there's certain things that the president or the govt has done that really anger me, but there's also a lot of shitty stuff that i just chalk up to as being "the world" (and out of obama's control, more or less). that last part is probably where i get closer to shakey mo and further from y'all.

actually, j0rdan, i'm pretty close to you on that whole 'the world is shit' thing. it's just that i try to limit my participation in its political processes as a result.

Morbs is at heart a Catholic guy with its attendant rages and paradoxes; it's what makes him so attractive too.

haha I've defined tradition and become more liberal with each passing year. I was so indifferent in 2000 to the Bush crypto-victory.

i never talk about it here but i am increasingly aligned with the T/morbs axis

Which side thinks the new Atlas Shrugged movie trailer looks hysterical?

Overall T/Morbs principles and ideals (to the extent that Morbs ever cogently expresses any) are OTM but there is the problem of People who you agree with but are dicks vs. people who you disagree with but are cool about it

jesse, i am resigned to my status as a dick on the internet. but irl, i'm quite charming and fun to be around. (second time i've said it in this thread alone, back me up yall).

he's very cute irl

well thanks surm, right back atcha

you did this thing with the beer bottle i was liike

i have a throat, yes.

I believe it T. Sometimes you express yourself in a way that I find abrasive, but there's more to you than that.

Xp tht for example :)

i am pretty good about it but sometimes i gag easily it depends

thanks jesse, and i understand.

also, surm, a lot of it depends on positioning of the head and neck.

i do feel so yes. like sometimes if i shift the neck every so slightly, it's a whole different ballgame

very true.

also i am still in bed. writing and listening to the new swans album. bf drawing next to me.

that's very cute, it sounds like a movie about the throws of love, light and art

ph1l and i were reading in bed the other day, probably the first time i've done that with anyone

i can't read in bed with my boyfriend it is way too precious

i love reading in bed with the boy. atm he's reading "Close to the Knives" and i'm reading one of Giorgio Agamben's first books. it's kind of really really gay.

a short list of stuff we have read together in bed:

- the introduction to leo bersani's 'homos' (earlier this week)
- the first couple of pages of 'the waves' (i fell asleep but i was really tired that evening)
- a short story about kaspar hauser from some issue of 'conjunctions' i think
- the text of robert ashley's 'the park' (well, i read this, out loud)
- gertrude stein and alice b. toklas' love letters (shut up)

I had a not-fun conversation the other night with my aunt who looked at me like some sort of traitor because I said I was probably voting Green.

I've never dated anyone, including the boy I'm with now, who reads more than texts.

I try not to read in bed too much on account of I'll get too annoyed when I'm interrupted with sex.

My lack of interest in reading books has only surfaced in the last five years or so, but has become by biggest character flaw.

jesse, i am resigned to my status as a dick on the internet. but irl, i'm quite charming and fun to be around. (second time i've said it in this thread alone, back me up yall).

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^^it's true!!

My lack of interest in reading books has only surfaced in the last five years or so, but has become by biggest character flaw.

i blame the internet, i've had to battle this myself - when i actually settle down with a book i love it as much as ever but it's hard to commit to, like, an unspecified length of time away from the screen and just by yourself. i think my concentration span, never a forte, is probably like 10 secs at most these days

(also this is why i have such antipathy to kindles etc - reading is the one time of my life i get AWAY from computer screens)

^^^ why I've resisted "smart phones" too.

i never thought i'd get one but the sheer amount of online reading i have to do for classes is making an ipad hard to resist. who wants to read 50-plus-page pdf files sitting at a computer desk?

I'm sure you have many worse character flaws, Eric!

tabes, you're a doll to have beers with, but I will sulk every time you threaten to visit hated NYC and never do it.

Rev, I could kiss you. (Tho I'm probably just not voting.) Is your aunt's name DJP?

I've never dated anyone, including the boy I'm with now, who reads more than texts

Now I'm just hearing Sotosyn cover Julie Brown's "I Like Em Big and Stupid." And if my manias are so attractive, why can't you bring a phone charger to NYC, beeyotch?

I've asked the thread's resident c*nt not to call me out by name anymore, so the rest of you don't grow bored with how much he and I loathe each other.

oh also: get the fuck off our thread Mr Que, you mad-cow hemorrhoid.

I'm fixin to listen to Swans new album in a minute! Whee!

T, did u know that they're touring w/ Xiu Xiu? Sadly they won't be together for the Swans show I'm going to in Oct. (w/ La Lechera).

I thought I was over Xiu Xiu, but I saw them this spring and they were great.

Swans and Xiu Xiu sounds like a perfect bill to me. "Always" is great.

I'm sure you have many worse character flaws, Eric!

Well, one at least: tolerating entirely too much bullshit from the people in my life.

that is a bummer. One I need to work on as well.

The sad consolation prize: having more friends, not less.