Ideas for ILX

ILX needs a new style of dock connector

ILX should use the new YouTube embed style so I don't have to install flash

Just bumping to garner restate my support and to solicit ideas and feedback on a "Hide Thread" feature.

Could we get a button where if we push it we simply cease to exist?

lol. I was going to post "If you could push a button and a thread would simply cease to exist, would you press it?" as the revive, but I reined in my impulse.

Just bumping to garner restate my support and to solicit ideas and feedback on a "Hide Thread" feature.

― borscht and bikinis (how's life), Friday, October 12, 2012 11:33 AM (4 minutes ago)

PLEEEASE. I've been begging for this for, let's see, 26 months now.

What I'm asking here is, Stet, what would we have to do to make this happen? I would happily double my annual contribution to the server funding drive.

i'm not sure giving more money for the server would generate free time for someone to add a "Hide Thread" feature

would be possible with a greasemonkey script (cf user killfile) EXCEPT for the method of specifying the threads you don't want to see, which would be trouble.

i envisage the same thing would be trouble if done on server (although similar to bookmarks)

the bigger question is "what does a Hide Thread feature look like?"

- how is the functionality invoked?
- how do you unhide a thread?
- is there a limit on the number of threads you can hide?
- is this functionality invokable on a batch of threads or only one at a time?
- what happens if you hide a thread you have previously bookmarked?
- are hidden threads removed from search results for threads/posts?
- are hidden threads removed from blog view?
- can a user follow a link in another thread to a hidden thread, or should the hidden thread always appear as if it has been deleted?
- are hidden threads filtered out of all locations (New Questions, Site New Answers, board answers) or are they left in some locations?
- if you post to a thread, then hide it, should that post appear when clicking "My Recent Posts"?

etc etc etc

site new answers and boards have the threads as <li> and a greasemonkey script would typically search through all these and hide the <li> which have a link in them to a hidden thread.

i'd put a link next to these list items that'd hide the thread in question. unhiding it would be more difficult.

search results are different, bookmarks are different, recent posts are different. but, i'd argue, all those are places you'd want to see 'hidden threads' - you've potentially gone looking for them. (and could help with the unhiding)

blog view isn't and would have to be a special case.

can we get a button to suggest that a poster be banned

- how is the functionality invoked? 'Hide this Thread' link similar to (and perhaps in the same place as) 'Remove Bookmark from this Thread'
- how do you unhide a thread? go to 'Hidden threads' link in menu bar (between 'Bookmarks' and 'My Recent Posts')
- is there a limit on the number of threads you can hide? same as bookmarks, i.e. I assume no
- is this functionality invokable on a batch of threads or only one at a time? one at a time
- what happens if you hide a thread you have previously bookmarked? user must remove bookmark in order for 'Hide this Thread' to appear in the thread
- are hidden threads removed from search results for threads/posts? no
- are hidden threads removed from blog view? yes
- can a user follow a link in another thread to a hidden thread, or should the hidden thread always appear as if it has been deleted? the former
- are hidden threads filtered out of all locations (New Questions, Site New Answers, board answers) or are they left in some locations? filtered out of those locations but appear in search results
- if you post to a thread, then hide it, should that post appear when clicking "My Recent Posts"? yes

v0.10

wait

- how is the functionality invoked? 'Hide this Thread' link similar to (and perhaps in the same place as) 'Remove Bookmark from this Thread'
http://www.csromania.com/images/updated.gif - how do you unhide a thread? go to 'Hidden threads' link in menu bar (between 'Bookmarks' and 'My Recent Posts'), check threads to be unhidden, click 'Unhide Selected Threads' (exactly as removing bookmarks works now)
- is there a limit on the number of threads you can hide? same as bookmarks, i.e. I assume no
- is this functionality invokable on a batch of threads or only one at a time? one at a time
- what happens if you hide a thread you have previously bookmarked? user must remove bookmark in order for 'Hide this Thread' to appear in the thread
- are hidden threads removed from search results for threads/posts? no
- are hidden threads removed from blog view? yes
- can a user follow a link in another thread to a hidden thread, or should the hidden thread always appear as if it has been deleted? the former
- are hidden threads filtered out of all locations (New Questions, Site New Answers, board answers) or are they left in some locations? filtered out of those locations but appear in search results
- if you post to a thread, then hide it, should that post appear when clicking "My Recent Posts"? yes

v0.11

if i can suggest a revision:

- how is the functionality invoked? 'Hide this Thread' link similar to (and perhaps in the same place as) 'Remove Bookmark from this Thread'
- how do you unhide a thread? go to 'Hidden threads' link in menu bar (between 'Bookmarks' and 'My Recent Posts'), check threads to be unhidden, click 'Unhide Selected Threads' (exactly as removing bookmarks works now)
- is there a limit on the number of threads you can hide? same as bookmarks, i.e. I assume no
- is this functionality invokable on a batch of threads or only one at a time? one at a time
http://www.csromania.com/images/updated.gif - what happens if you hide a thread you have previously bookmarked? thread is removed from list of bookmarked threads for the user and hidden simultaenously (the previous option would result in some confusion when people get disgusted with a thread they had previously bookmarked and can't quickly locate the "Hide this Thread" link)
- are hidden threads removed from search results for threads/posts? no
- are hidden threads removed from blog view? yes
- can a user follow a link in another thread to a hidden thread, or should the hidden thread always appear as if it has been deleted? the former
- are hidden threads filtered out of all locations (New Questions, Site New Answers, board answers) or are they left in some locations? filtered out of those locations but appear in search results
- if you post to a thread, then hide it, should that post appear when clicking "My Recent Posts"? yes

v0.12

I resisted that because then you've got 'Remove Bookmark from this Thread' *and* 'Hide this Thread' on the same screen, and it started to feel a bit cluttered at that point. one way to get around that might be to stick the 'Hide this Thread' link somewhere else on the page

In lieu of a "preview" function, it'd be great if at least the font that posts appear in when being composed was changed to whichever one posted posts actually end up appearing in. The font that the "new world" stylesheet uses, for one, is leagues more readable than the way the words appear in the little box when trying to bang out a post

i) hide bookmarks (can some kind someone not whack a quick gmonkey script together for this)

ii) "view previous page" on long threads

these are the only two proper issues, gtfo with "hide thread" and similar prissynesses

soundcloud / vimeo etc embeds might be nice too but no biggie

there is already a 'view previous page'

Why would you want to hide a bookmark, RTC? Wouldn't you just remove it?

not a bookmark, all of them

idk i don't use the feature religiously and oh it's ever such a chore seeing them at the top of every page

there is already a 'view previous page'

― just1n3, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:15 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol oh yeah wait i knew that... ok there was some other minor irritation in this vein but i forget now, nm

Not using bookmarks = disgusting savagery I'm afraid. I am very disappointed in you.

easy to hide bookmarks in greasemonkey:

// ==UserScript==
// @name        Hide ilx bookmarks
// @namespace   http://localhost
// @description Hide ilx bookmarks from new answers pages
// @include     http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet*
// @include     http://ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet*
// @include     http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/SiteNewAnswersControllerServlet
// @include     http://ilxor.com/ILX/SiteNewAnswersControllerServlet
// @version     1
// @grant       none
// ==/UserScript==
document.getElementsByClassName("bookmarks")[0].style.display="none";

stylish would be a better tool, for that, i think. less of a sledgehammer if all you're going to do is change one style attribute of one element.

but i think the idea was to add a button that collapsed them until uncollapsed. would mean inserting said button and the code that that button executed. and remembering the state.

The Bookmarks page has a "Delete all Bookmarks" link, fyi.

it wasn't about deleting them though, was about not having them at the top there, all the time, taking up space.

did try a stylesheet which had them all in a div floating right. didn't get far with it though.

There is a divide on ilx between people who use bookmarks to mark specific messages within a thread and people who use bookmarks to alert them when threads they've already completely read have resurfaced.

and people who never use bookmarks for anything

That's right, some dude. Some people don't use bookmarks at all.

lol

Wish I could be like that. Why did I link to a thread about "Matt Taibbi"? Who's that? Who gives a shit? There's a thread in there called Penis. No way am I clicking that. "Which fictional character is your hero and why?" ttthhhhppppppppt. I have horrible bookmarking habits.

Think of it as having faith in the ability of ILX to turn threads around!

thanks ledge! i am not fussy about a toggle so if that works then that'll do me fine

(btw if it has any bearing when i said gmonkey script i was only gonna whack it into chrome?)

kip in 2012

There is something about view previous page that's a little off but fecked if i can remember what.

people who use bookmarks to alert them when threads they've already completely read have resurfaced.

? Why would you use a bookmark for that when the open-circle thingy indicates it already?

(btw if it has any bearing when i said gmonkey script i was only gonna whack it into chrome?)

... idk about that, only been testing in firefox. And I forgot to make it work on thread pages, add these two lines in the comment section at the top for that:

// @include     http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet*
// @include     http://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet*

And here's a version with fancy toggle, but it doesn't always work when you refresh...

// ==UserScript==
// @name        Hide ilx bookmarks
// @namespace   http://tom.ledger.name
// @description Hide ilx bookmarks from new answers pages
// @include     http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet*
// @include     http://ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet*
// @include     http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/SiteNewAnswersControllerServlet
// @include     http://ilxor.com/ILX/SiteNewAnswersControllerServlet
// @include     http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet*
// @include     http://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet*
// @version     1
// @grant       GM_setValue
// @grant       GM_getValue
// ==/UserScript==
var bm = document.getElementsByClassName("bookmarks")[0];
bm.style.marginBottom=0;
var elem = document.createElement("a");
elem.setAttribute("style", "margin-left: 2%;");
elem.setAttribute("href", "#bmhide");
elem.innerHTML = "hide bookmarks";
elem.addEventListener("click", toggle);
bm.parentNode.insertBefore(elem, bm.nextSibling);
if (GM_getValue("hidden")) hide();
function toggle()
{
	if (GM_getValue("hidden"))
	{
		show();
		GM_setValue("hidden", false);
	}
	else
	{
		hide();
		GM_setValue("hidden", true);
	}
}
function hide()
{
	bm.style.display="none";
	elem.innerHTML="show bookmarks";
}
function show()
{
	bm.style.display="block";
	elem.innerHTML="hide bookmarks";
}

xp

The open circle is very small and I really only get to the ophthalmologist maybe once every presidential administration.

i use bookmarks for the odd rolling tv show thread when i might not watch something same time as everyone else, otherwise a football or music thread i am on here enough to follow it as it goes (and i happily accept this is disgusting savagery in the grand scheme of life)

Real answer: if I'm away from ilx for a day or two, the open circle thingy will slip back down sna along with the thread, but a bookmark alert will stay there until I do something about it.

hl my eyesight is shot to shit and I manage it fine but i donno.

but tbf, I dont heavily read ilx. I dont real ILM at all, and the rest I skim, so.

I browse individual boards/sna maybe twice a month these days

without bookmarks I'd probably give up

people who use bookmarks to alert them when threads they've already
completely read have resurfaced.

? Why would you use a bookmark for that when the open-circle thingy indicates it already?

Because then if you don't look at ILX for a day and the thread gets revived you get an alert even if it's fallen off Site New Answers?

Also because the open-circle indicator expires every so often, or occasionally they all get reset. Plus if you click on loads of threads but only bookmark a select few it's like the next level up of might-be-interesting.

think koogs is otm in that the toggle version would need to remember the last state

honestly though i don't need more than v1 cos i know what handful of threads i have bookmarked and it's nothing to go to the bookmarks page from the link at the top and hit them from there

v1 is working fine for me although if i'm being a tart then perhaps there is a distraction in that i see the bookmarks for a halfsec first before they get chomped (then again i have five zillion tabs open over four windows and havent deleted cache in forever so i probably shouldnt be testing right now)

thanks again!

(i have 26 *pages* of bookmarks fwiw)

ledge's bookmark hider does maintain state, using GM_setValue / getValue. which, iirc, stores them in firefox settings - you can see them in about:config.

are gm script methods distinct from those in the original html or can you have a clash if you use the same method names?

There is something about view previous page that's a little off but fecked if i can remember what.

Would much rather have view last 100 messages than view previous page.