Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

The camping comment cutting to him cooking in a giant tent was kind of lol

inoperable brain cancer would explain why he's not bothering with chemo (since the lung cancer is pretty clearly back at his 52nd birthday breakfast)

did anyone notice the weird hand-drier or whatever after he got the scan and was in the bathroom? it looked like it had been punched in. but i couldn't tell if that was just the design on it.

Yes, I wondered if that was supposed to have been left by him punching it and not remembering doing it

yeah, it was covered up thread. Happened in S2

i think he did remember it too. And the point may been to contrast his reactions in the two instances. If he's just heard that his cancer has come back, this time he's resigned to it

"that's intertsing you used to mark trees for cutting hank because i just marked nine men for death! and you know what, i'm enjoying every minute" *checks watch* "well, minute and a half"

It's quite a leap to surmise his cancer's come back based on what we saw in this episode.

Can someone refresh my memory on how Hank came upon the WW initials in the first place? I know it was in Gale's case file in some way but I can't quite remember in what context.

Did the copy of Leaves of Grass actually say 'from Gale' or anything?

from GB

and his logbook opened with "To W.W., my star, my perfect silence"

it said "to WW" again, and from "GB". I think it's reasonable that Hank, in his mania about this case, has wondered who the fuck WW is at length.

"To Woodrow Wilson, from George Bush"

Hank just freaking out at prospect of Presidential alleigance switcheroo

I think it's reasonable that Hank, in his mania about this case, has wondered who the fuck WW is at length.

Oh yeah, totally. Even now, assuming Hank has made the connection, he's probably still only thinking of Walt as some geeky Gale type, I wonder if he even suspects the full extent of the horror.

this is the great thing about it, how hank has had this view of walt as a sort of ineffectual blubbing loser, and walt has manipulated him because of this, at length. now hank has to rethink that, but it's going to be like unpeeling an onion for him cos yeah, he has no fucking idea how evil his brother in law really is.

he knows ww is heisenberg though, doesn't he?

I mean ww as in the 'W. W.' in the whitman book

so from there it's a tiny leap to 'W. W.' = walter = heisenberg

he knows ww is heisenberg though, doesn't he

I can't quite remember. But if he does, it's Heisenberg as master cook rather than Heisenberg as mass-murdering head of the organisation.

ah yes

that's until he gets his hands on the phoenix gang and shows them a picture of w.w.

"do you know this man?"

"yeah, he killed gus fring"

Well, assuming Walt is on the run in the next half-season, we know the myriad reasons why (maybe), not least that you can't enter into multi-million dollar distribution deals with southwest networks and international interests and then suddenly say "I'm out." You also don't get in bed with the Aryan brotherhood and then just say "I'm out." And I have no idea how the Hank stuff will play out, unless Walt devises a sob story and convinces Hank he'd been exploited and then turns witness (which seems implausible). And I have absolutely no idea even as far as guesses go what role Jesse will play. Was the implication he had the gun to answer the door and talk to Walt because he was afraid? Or was the implication that he was going nuts, and this blood money that followed him home was making him suicidal?

no, it was fear

There's also the matter that the show keeps reminding us of the ricin, the top Chekov's gun of the show. Who will bear its quietly lethal brunt? Perhaps voting for Walt at this point.

There's a "behind the scenes" clip that comes with the iTunes download of the show (maybe on the regular show, too, I don't know) and in it, Vince Gilligan, Dean Norris, and Brian Cranston straight up said that Hank now knows Walt is Heisenberg and that is the driving force behind the remainder of the show.

Also Vince Gilligan said that the ending was a literal "oh shit" moment, and I wondered if he reads ILX.

everybody either gets dissolved in acid or ricin'd, flynn drives into the sunset in his mustang

http://i.qkme.me/3qr0vw.jpg

Leaves of Glass

lol pplains

xxp lolol

hahaha

It's quite a leap to surmise his cancer's come back based on what we saw in this episode.

it's not certain, but 'quite a leap' is... quite a leap, considering we saw him get a scan for the first time in i don't know how many seasons. clearly, they're indicating that something may be up again.

You also don't get in bed with the Aryan brotherhood and then just say "I'm out."

it's not like he went into business with them - he paid them probably a ton of money to do a job. what, are they gonna insist he keep coming up with people for them to hit?

Madrigal and Phoenix dudes might be irritated though.

Aryan Bros probably thrilled that Todd is getting all this awesome on the job training frankly.

Aryan Brotherhood not the sort of "loose end" you want hanging around.

Since they didn't really make anything of the scan in the episode as far as consultation etc, I just took it to be routine. It's possible for someone in remission to have a precautionary scan just to confirm that there's no further growth.

And harkening back to the punched-in napkin dispenser felt more like rememberance of things past.

idk

if it's there it's there for a reason.

Aryan Brotherhood not the sort of "loose end" you want hanging around.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:31 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how is it a loose end?

yeah I don't see it as a loose end either. he hired them to do a job, they did it, they got paid, everybody's happy.

maybe not everybody.

why would the AB be unhappy? they were expecting a never-ending supply of inside hit jobs?

They're totally happy. But they're a criminal enterprise behind the brazen murder of 9 inmates, all directly involved in the Madrigal investigation, killings prominent enough that it got local news coverage. I imagine the DEA won't shrug and simply let it slide. They'll shake some trees. And beyond that, Todd is directly connected to them, too. And in turn directly connected to Walt. His whole world is loose ends.

Based on murmurings, I'm a little worried that none of Walt's family will make it out of this alive. Or at least not everyone.

after what just happened i doubt anyone involved would ever dream about talking!

Walter wouldn't have gotten the results from a scan he just had. He's likely learned his lesson from peeking over the operator's shoulder at the monitor.

The show has also shown him getting routine scans in the past, like the time he was chilling in the locker room with some other cancer man, telling him to stop his yapping.

There's more to infer from his little coughs in the future then there is from the scan scenes.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/vince-gilligan-on-breaking-bad-and-the-plumbing-of-it-all/

That scene of Walt saying he's out comes after a visit to the doctor's office. Is it safe to say his human side came out of whatever he learned at that doctor's office? How important will that be in the end game of the show?

A.

Good attention to detail there. The best way to put it is, we really try never to have a scene in our show that adds up to nothing. Every scene - if you go to the trouble of asking your crew to build a set and shoot a scene, it damn well ought to be important. So going forward, every scene is important. There were probably a lot of good reasons for Walt to walk into the kitchen and say to his wife, "I'm out." She gave him a damn good one at the end of the previous act, when she showed him all that money. She basically explained to him that this is just a giant pile of paper that, at this point, we can't even do anything with. How much is enough? How big does this pile have to be? That right there, that's a good reason to quit.

id be surprised if walts cancer doesnt come back, its so central to the show

aryan brotherhood i could see playing in the future in that walt is teaching todd to cook so maybe they want to take over walts operation installing todd as head cook, but also theres only 8 eps left so who knows

its not clear what he did with his business... did he hand it over to todd? dismantle it completely? im sure all that stuff is comin tho

is there a break now or do we get all 16 epis one after another?

They have yet to start filming 9-16 iirc

i suspect walt is not actually out xp, obvs thats not really based on anything