Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

i think he found it in a drawer and had a bit of a chuckle ("o gale, remember that guy? what a character!") and left it on the bedside table. not sure how it made it into the bathroom.

oh yeah I vaguely remember that

still no real weight attached to it, it just was pure plot device

i have zero issues with the book.

btw, i'm pretty sure nazi dude sitting on bed was Gator from Justified

it was the guy who played Devil, from the most recent season. Also, I don't think he had any Nazi tattoos in Justified, tho he was part of Boyd's crew.

he needed to read it ALL THE TIME

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, September 3, 2012 10:56 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf im p sure he reads it in a lot of the parts of the show that arent broadcast, just in his down time or w/e, its a real thing, def not a plot device

whoops devil, not gator. confused

i was fairly certain titus welliver was in the back playing one of the nazi guys. he had maybe one line, but he's not the kind of actor you bring on to shadow in the dark and say one thing, so if it was him i'd expect the nazis to be back in the second half.

could well be that the prison guys may want a bigger piece of the pie

i think he found it in a drawer and had a bit of a chuckle ("o gale, remember that guy? what a character!") and left it on the bedside table. not sure how it made it into the bathroom.

yep, then i thought i saw it shown somewhere else in another room in a later episode - it kept popping up in the background, maybe in different rooms, implying he was carrying it around, reading it around the house and so on

it is hella creepy he'd keep that book as a momento, him and todd-the-tarrantula-keeper are birds of a feather no?

neo-nazi's are, i understand, the de-facto gang for white guys in prison. so on one hand it's not really that surprising uncle prisonconnections had swastica tatto dudes around him. on the other hand, yep, just how low can walt sink ffs?!?!?

yeah, that's the point there

also he knows gale wrote about a mysterious "WW" and the inscription is signed "GB"

yeah, so essentially there's no scope for them to wriggle out of this when the show returns next year

he already had a 'it could be somebody right under your nose' (looks pensive) moment earlier in the season

also the book doesn't need to be a huge and obvious prop – if anything, it beautifully demonstrates the fact that careful walt wasn't careful enough xp

imho it demonstrates more than anything that when youre a drug kingpin having your brother in law investigating you is more dangerous than having your brother in law not investigating you

read the book while you shit, you must acquit

imho it demonstrates more than anything that when youre a drug kingpin having your brother in law investigating you is more dangerous than having your brother in law not investigating you

*takes notes*
*leaves notes in bathroom alongside boring magazines*

if anything, it beautifully demonstrates the fact that careful walt wasn't careful enough

"careful walt" is never fuckin careful - lashing out on fancy cars over and over, demanding ppl know "his" name, never thinking two steps ahead in any plan

fundamentally i think being a drug kingpin is just not careful behavior, having hank wandering around just compounds things, the book is just one of many ways he couldve made the connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHpUs1edbzA

the writers aren't thinking this doubtless but in a neat coincidence it really is the case that Leaves of Grass is a very nearly perfect bathroom book. (If you like literature OK I know some wise guys will be like o rly I prefer 10000 best toilet jokes or whatever.) You can open it and just start reading anywhere and stop whenever you like, the way Whitman writes is kind of perfect for just diving in wherever and stopping whenever

^^^^

an obscenely geeky (and probably pointless, i dunno, i'm tired) thing to notice, but hank's flashback is a slightly different edit than the original one - in that one it cut to walt again when hank said 'willy wonka?', and without that lingering shot on hank i don't think there's any sense of it being anything but joeks, which seems less the case in the new context.

"He'd *kill* us if he had the chance" vs "He'd kill *us* if he had the chance"

it seems evident to me that the cancer has spread to walt's brain. the kind of sudden hard turn to irrational anger, the random space-out looking at the painting, the scan, the 'i'm out'.

The camping comment cutting to him cooking in a giant tent was kind of lol

inoperable brain cancer would explain why he's not bothering with chemo (since the lung cancer is pretty clearly back at his 52nd birthday breakfast)

did anyone notice the weird hand-drier or whatever after he got the scan and was in the bathroom? it looked like it had been punched in. but i couldn't tell if that was just the design on it.

Yes, I wondered if that was supposed to have been left by him punching it and not remembering doing it

yeah, it was covered up thread. Happened in S2

i think he did remember it too. And the point may been to contrast his reactions in the two instances. If he's just heard that his cancer has come back, this time he's resigned to it

"that's intertsing you used to mark trees for cutting hank because i just marked nine men for death! and you know what, i'm enjoying every minute" *checks watch* "well, minute and a half"

It's quite a leap to surmise his cancer's come back based on what we saw in this episode.

Can someone refresh my memory on how Hank came upon the WW initials in the first place? I know it was in Gale's case file in some way but I can't quite remember in what context.

Did the copy of Leaves of Grass actually say 'from Gale' or anything?

from GB

and his logbook opened with "To W.W., my star, my perfect silence"

it said "to WW" again, and from "GB". I think it's reasonable that Hank, in his mania about this case, has wondered who the fuck WW is at length.

"To Woodrow Wilson, from George Bush"

Hank just freaking out at prospect of Presidential alleigance switcheroo

I think it's reasonable that Hank, in his mania about this case, has wondered who the fuck WW is at length.

Oh yeah, totally. Even now, assuming Hank has made the connection, he's probably still only thinking of Walt as some geeky Gale type, I wonder if he even suspects the full extent of the horror.

this is the great thing about it, how hank has had this view of walt as a sort of ineffectual blubbing loser, and walt has manipulated him because of this, at length. now hank has to rethink that, but it's going to be like unpeeling an onion for him cos yeah, he has no fucking idea how evil his brother in law really is.

he knows ww is heisenberg though, doesn't he?

I mean ww as in the 'W. W.' in the whitman book

so from there it's a tiny leap to 'W. W.' = walter = heisenberg

he knows ww is heisenberg though, doesn't he

I can't quite remember. But if he does, it's Heisenberg as master cook rather than Heisenberg as mass-murdering head of the organisation.

ah yes

that's until he gets his hands on the phoenix gang and shows them a picture of w.w.

"do you know this man?"

"yeah, he killed gus fring"

Well, assuming Walt is on the run in the next half-season, we know the myriad reasons why (maybe), not least that you can't enter into multi-million dollar distribution deals with southwest networks and international interests and then suddenly say "I'm out." You also don't get in bed with the Aryan brotherhood and then just say "I'm out." And I have no idea how the Hank stuff will play out, unless Walt devises a sob story and convinces Hank he'd been exploited and then turns witness (which seems implausible). And I have absolutely no idea even as far as guesses go what role Jesse will play. Was the implication he had the gun to answer the door and talk to Walt because he was afraid? Or was the implication that he was going nuts, and this blood money that followed him home was making him suicidal?

no, it was fear

There's also the matter that the show keeps reminding us of the ricin, the top Chekov's gun of the show. Who will bear its quietly lethal brunt? Perhaps voting for Walt at this point.

There's a "behind the scenes" clip that comes with the iTunes download of the show (maybe on the regular show, too, I don't know) and in it, Vince Gilligan, Dean Norris, and Brian Cranston straight up said that Hank now knows Walt is Heisenberg and that is the driving force behind the remainder of the show.

Also Vince Gilligan said that the ending was a literal "oh shit" moment, and I wondered if he reads ILX.

everybody either gets dissolved in acid or ricin'd, flynn drives into the sunset in his mustang

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