Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

To anyone else the inscription could be willed away as it's kind of ambiguous. But Hank KNOWS.

hank knows gale's handwriting

i thought that at first but then i think the only people we see in the desert scenes are walt and todd? but i dunno. and ey who cares.

They fistbump with a leather-jacketed hand in the desert, last week they signed on to do meth-trading business with dudes in leather jackets in the desert, presumably we don’t see ppl clearly bcz they saved money by not hiring featured performers and it was shot by 2nd unit

GAH

Cranston's delivery on the "I used to love to go camping" line was a series highlight for me.

― Clay, Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one of his most evil moments for sure

Haven't read any comments yet, but oh my god, what a spectacular episode. There were some downright Godfather II moments, from the very Gordon Willis look of stuff to the incredible juggling of the (multiple) family dynamic(s).

BTW

they're not REAL nazis

What's weird is that I could have sworn one of the guys I recognized, the one with a huge swastika on his neck, from "Justified," where he played ... a neo-Nazi with a swastika on his neck. So first I thought, huh, maybe they got this guy because he already had the elaborate temp tattoo on. And then I thought, hmm, maybe this is actually a Nazi turned actor!

maybe's he's a nazi actor

hank knows gale's handwriting

― * The "no hands" rule can be compared to socialist tax policies (Autumn Almanac), Monday, September 3, 2012 8:09 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also he knows gale wrote about a mysterious "WW" and the inscription is signed "GB"

spider jar= gale's book

no i'm pretty sure it was leaves of grass

has anyone dug up a scene where skyler puts it behind the toilet or somethin'

I felt the book thing was a little too scripted, esp w/ the book reappearing in this (or the prev? I watched them together) ep in the lab. if walt had been reading it on the reg it would have felt like less of a throwaway plot token that it ended up in the bathroom.

it's funny how the multitude of ways for Hank to find out that are really plausible (like Mike not losing the cops on his trips to HQ) would seem cheap somehow, so they have to do something which is really kind of silly

http://maxgif.com/6H9 <- all time
btw, i'm pretty sure nazi dude sitting on bed was Gator from Justified

okay gf says they showed him reading it in an earlier ep in the season...still not enough to merit being the thing the whole show turns on

he needed to read it ALL THE TIME

i think he found it in a drawer and had a bit of a chuckle ("o gale, remember that guy? what a character!") and left it on the bedside table. not sure how it made it into the bathroom.

oh yeah I vaguely remember that

still no real weight attached to it, it just was pure plot device

i have zero issues with the book.

btw, i'm pretty sure nazi dude sitting on bed was Gator from Justified

it was the guy who played Devil, from the most recent season. Also, I don't think he had any Nazi tattoos in Justified, tho he was part of Boyd's crew.

he needed to read it ALL THE TIME

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, September 3, 2012 10:56 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf im p sure he reads it in a lot of the parts of the show that arent broadcast, just in his down time or w/e, its a real thing, def not a plot device

whoops devil, not gator. confused

i was fairly certain titus welliver was in the back playing one of the nazi guys. he had maybe one line, but he's not the kind of actor you bring on to shadow in the dark and say one thing, so if it was him i'd expect the nazis to be back in the second half.

could well be that the prison guys may want a bigger piece of the pie

i think he found it in a drawer and had a bit of a chuckle ("o gale, remember that guy? what a character!") and left it on the bedside table. not sure how it made it into the bathroom.

yep, then i thought i saw it shown somewhere else in another room in a later episode - it kept popping up in the background, maybe in different rooms, implying he was carrying it around, reading it around the house and so on

it is hella creepy he'd keep that book as a momento, him and todd-the-tarrantula-keeper are birds of a feather no?

neo-nazi's are, i understand, the de-facto gang for white guys in prison. so on one hand it's not really that surprising uncle prisonconnections had swastica tatto dudes around him. on the other hand, yep, just how low can walt sink ffs?!?!?

yeah, that's the point there

also he knows gale wrote about a mysterious "WW" and the inscription is signed "GB"

yeah, so essentially there's no scope for them to wriggle out of this when the show returns next year

he already had a 'it could be somebody right under your nose' (looks pensive) moment earlier in the season

also the book doesn't need to be a huge and obvious prop – if anything, it beautifully demonstrates the fact that careful walt wasn't careful enough xp

imho it demonstrates more than anything that when youre a drug kingpin having your brother in law investigating you is more dangerous than having your brother in law not investigating you

read the book while you shit, you must acquit

imho it demonstrates more than anything that when youre a drug kingpin having your brother in law investigating you is more dangerous than having your brother in law not investigating you

*takes notes*
*leaves notes in bathroom alongside boring magazines*

if anything, it beautifully demonstrates the fact that careful walt wasn't careful enough

"careful walt" is never fuckin careful - lashing out on fancy cars over and over, demanding ppl know "his" name, never thinking two steps ahead in any plan

fundamentally i think being a drug kingpin is just not careful behavior, having hank wandering around just compounds things, the book is just one of many ways he couldve made the connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHpUs1edbzA

the writers aren't thinking this doubtless but in a neat coincidence it really is the case that Leaves of Grass is a very nearly perfect bathroom book. (If you like literature OK I know some wise guys will be like o rly I prefer 10000 best toilet jokes or whatever.) You can open it and just start reading anywhere and stop whenever you like, the way Whitman writes is kind of perfect for just diving in wherever and stopping whenever

^^^^

an obscenely geeky (and probably pointless, i dunno, i'm tired) thing to notice, but hank's flashback is a slightly different edit than the original one - in that one it cut to walt again when hank said 'willy wonka?', and without that lingering shot on hank i don't think there's any sense of it being anything but joeks, which seems less the case in the new context.

"He'd *kill* us if he had the chance" vs "He'd kill *us* if he had the chance"

it seems evident to me that the cancer has spread to walt's brain. the kind of sudden hard turn to irrational anger, the random space-out looking at the painting, the scan, the 'i'm out'.

The camping comment cutting to him cooking in a giant tent was kind of lol

inoperable brain cancer would explain why he's not bothering with chemo (since the lung cancer is pretty clearly back at his 52nd birthday breakfast)

did anyone notice the weird hand-drier or whatever after he got the scan and was in the bathroom? it looked like it had been punched in. but i couldn't tell if that was just the design on it.

Yes, I wondered if that was supposed to have been left by him punching it and not remembering doing it

yeah, it was covered up thread. Happened in S2

i think he did remember it too. And the point may been to contrast his reactions in the two instances. If he's just heard that his cancer has come back, this time he's resigned to it

"that's intertsing you used to mark trees for cutting hank because i just marked nine men for death! and you know what, i'm enjoying every minute" *checks watch* "well, minute and a half"

It's quite a leap to surmise his cancer's come back based on what we saw in this episode.

Can someone refresh my memory on how Hank came upon the WW initials in the first place? I know it was in Gale's case file in some way but I can't quite remember in what context.

Did the copy of Leaves of Grass actually say 'from Gale' or anything?

from GB

and his logbook opened with "To W.W., my star, my perfect silence"