Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

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so that tax loophole that enables mitt to get huge loans and buy companies and make the company pay the loan back so that mitt can dump the company and make a huge profit? he built that too because the government is working for us the people and they have to do what we say because they are our employees. i think i've got that right...

scott seward, Sunday, 2 September 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

as long as you ignore the fact that the government people are also "the people", i guess.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 September 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

its all so confusing.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 September 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

I just found out that photo of Romney and the kids with t-shirts spelling out "MONEY" was 'shopped. They really did spell out "OMNEY" the correct way. ;_;

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 2 September 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

these dummies with their free tv need to get wise...back in the 70s the LA Greyhound station had TVs that you put a quarter in for seven minutes of broadcast glory in radiant black and white usually

we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 2 September 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

^also in airports!

see inlaycard for details (suzy), Sunday, 2 September 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

that went into the 90s.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 2 September 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

the PA in NYC also had those quarter TVs!

that photo of Romney and the kids with t-shirts spelling out "MONEY" was 'shopped.

but the point still stands -- how is Obama running his campaign with no money?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

Romney is obsessed with money that's why it's funny

blank, Monday, 3 September 2012 02:21 (thirteen years ago)

speeding tix, Indy 500, etc

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

almost ftt

mookieproof, Monday, 3 September 2012 02:32 (thirteen years ago)

since Obama shut down Manhattan for fundraisers every 10 days in the spring, i'm glad he's not obsessed.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:40 (thirteen years ago)

Obama wants power, money is secondary

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:04 (thirteen years ago)

So the messaging sounded inoffensive, but when you really think about what is being said at this convention, you realize that all the red, white, and blue bunting and clothing and video imagery is a put-on. All the talk about patriotism, about supporting the troops, is just lip service. This is the most unpatriotic crowd I have ever been a part of. What they are against is community. Every sentence is devoid of empathy. Every finger-wag is aimed directly at an American who can’t afford health insurance, who hasn’t had a raise on their minimum-wage job in four years. Even as they rail against a statement that the president never really made, they are talking about tearing America down and leaving something meaner and greedier in its place. They’re radicals—radicals who’ve gone over the edge and are trying to make their radicalism mainstream.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/stuck-in-a-room-with-mitt-romney/Content?oid=14623016

scott seward, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)

i know preaching to the converted and all that but it fits my mood.

scott seward, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know this guy seems like a pretty lazy journalist... he pretty much did lie to that prayer room guy and it seems unlikely Idaho delagates would have pins the shape of potatoes and not the AWESOME SHAPE of Idaho! I wonder if he actually saw these pins... or walked downtown, or anything. Basically this guy doesn't seem like he has much credibility. I mean I suppose I am the converted in that I thought the RNC was a weird fascist spectacle that I would not enjoy being at, but I dunno he seemed to think that old white people in and of themselves are terrible.

(Also, how does the Lightening logo look 'white supremacist', its just a lightening bolt ffs -- at least save your ire for ACTUALLY offensive sports logos, I mean there's plenty!)

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 3 September 2012 03:37 (thirteen years ago)

I think really clean designs of lightning bolts are always going to have that SS association

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 3 September 2012 04:58 (thirteen years ago)

Of course delagates do trade all kinds of chachkis but...

http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/431123_2n0YbbO8KNPKDRGm4jJGvLBhn.jpg

I was thinking about the SS thing too, but the TBL logo has like 5 bends in it, it doesn't really look like an S at all.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 3 September 2012 05:18 (thirteen years ago)

It is quite an anti-social mindset. But i think if you look at the history of the country as if it were a person, and compare that with how it was founded, treated the former residents of the land, and made big power plays on the rest of the world through the 20th century, you would see some pretty anti-social tendencies.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 September 2012 05:43 (thirteen years ago)

In fairness there are very few imperial powers that you would kick it with and not keep an eye on the door.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 September 2012 05:48 (thirteen years ago)

Tchotchkes

max, Monday, 3 September 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

thank you max.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 3 September 2012 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

heard all about drone planes and the national guard and all that but i didn't hear anything about protesters/protests at the convention.

scott seward, Monday, 3 September 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

i don't have cable t.v. though...

scott seward, Monday, 3 September 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

The most moving friendship this side of Michael Corleone and Hyman Roth:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/09/10/120910fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all

clemenza, Monday, 3 September 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Would have been awesome if Obama quietly ordered the RNC buzzed by low-flying drones. They could have been dragging "Obama 2012" banners. Or just been all, yo, what's up, Republicans?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

Just dronin' around Tampa!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 September 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

came here to post this photo of joe biden

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1150391.1346686956!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/biden4n-1-web.jpg

flopson, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

hairplug cut!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

he's looking for a chair to yell at.

scott seward, Monday, 3 September 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Carnac the Magnificent, minus the hat. "Dolly Parton, Mount Rushmore, and a diseased yak..."

clemenza, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

thought about trying to figure out how the fuck half this thread is now about TVs in McDonald's but

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some dude, Monday, 3 September 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

A puff Ryan Lizza piece on the Barack-Bill relationship. I laughed out loud at this bit, echoed in today's NYT story about Obama's personality:

Throughout 2008 and 2009, Obama rarely contacted Clinton, a decision that the Clinton circle attributes to Obama’s loner personality. A Democrat deeply familiar with the relationship complained that the press has often made it seem that Clinton harbored “lingering resentments” from the primary battle: “It’s always sort of implied that it’s Clinton’s fault.” The truth, he added, “is that Obama doesn’t really like very many people.” He ticked off the names of some of Obama’s longtime friends: the Whitakers, the Nesbitts, Valerie Jarrett. “And he likes to talk about sports. But other than that he just doesn’t like very many people. Unfortunately, it extends to people who used to have his job.”

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 September 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.newyorker.com/images/2012/09/10/g290/120910_r22537_g290_crop.jpg

k3vin k., Monday, 3 September 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

JOLTIN JOE LOOKIN PEAKED

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 September 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)

Can't wait to read that New Yorker article. Can you blame the guy? People suck.

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 September 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

Carnac the Magnificent, minus the hat. "Dolly Parton, Mount Rushmore, and a diseased yak..."

"Boobs like mountains, boobs on a mountain, and something you use to throw people off how bad the first two gags in this joke were."

pplains, Monday, 3 September 2012 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

journalism self parody http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80604.html

lag∞n, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

after reading this i looked for the satire tag

Reporters feel like both campaigns have decided to run out the clock with limited press avails, distractions, and negative attacks, rather than run confident campaigns with bold policy platforms or lofty notions of hope and change — leaving the media with little to do but grind along covering the latest shallow, sensational item of the day.
“Until the candidates restore joy, it’s impossible for us to be joyful,” NBC News senior White House correspondent Chuck Todd told POLITICO.

Mordy, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

I like how the example of big ideas they should be talking about is, "Who will give you a lower marginal tax rate in 2014?"

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 September 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

oh how we long for the days of Al Gore's earth tones

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

I am sort of curious about what the DNC convention's going to be like, particularly since Obama's mentioned (spoilers) that his second term will involve even more making compromises that the left won't like (and the right won't give credit for).

Like, does he have a platform to argue from as regards "Vote for me and I'll get done all this shit that I've been unable or unwilling to get done so far?", or is the conference just going to be big screens alternating between the ACA logo and Mitt Romney's face?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

“It’s fun. It’s funny,” Malkin explained to POLITICO. “Clint Eastwood resonated with voters outside the snotty, derisive NY-DC-Hollywood axis. He braved derision and ridicule for standing on the convention stage. Activists on the right wanted to demonstrate … their appreciation. As always, humor is the best medicine.”

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

I've read about various antecedents for Clint--Harvey, The Sixth Sense, others--but didn't come across this one:

http://cineawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/King-of-Comedy-2.jpg

I'm not sure if the cardboard cutouts make such conversations more or less surreal.

clemenza, Monday, 3 September 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

some dem apparatchik ((c) alfred) on cspan today mentioned something like "buiding our economy from the middle class up" which i thought was just a perfect sad slogan for democrats

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 01:33 (thirteen years ago)

It's indictment of our times. You can't even talk about the poor as worth helping if you want to get elected.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)

I think a lot of technically-poor people probably self-identify as middle class, is the thing

iatee, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

http://asociologist.com/2012/02/03/americans-80-or-45-middle-class-or-response-categories-matter/

iatee, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 01:45 (thirteen years ago)

I think a lot of technically-poor people probably self-identify as middle class, is the thing

― iatee, Monday, September 3, 2012 9:38 PM (9 minutes ago)

oh totally, it's just sad

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)

dems not trying to help working class

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 02:07 (thirteen years ago)


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