Symmetry required it: 2012 american general election thread #2

losing a presidential election by 3 points is basically slavery imho

special underwear in the white house *shudders*

been thinking abt my prediction upthread that ryans the 2016 republican nominee and now im kinda of the mind that he may have stigmatized himself w/the lying and if he keeps doing it until the election its prob not gonna happen for him, its just so v foolish hes in a great position the base is nuts over him and it turns out he doesnt know how to lie right doesnt know which kind of lies to tell how to mislead w/o completely contradicting the facts

if he doesnt change his ways he could find himself in a palin type 'tragically too stigmatized by the librul media to get elected' type situation

I don't have faith in the media's ability to make Ryan's lies linger, especially when for "balance"'s sake they'll look for Obama's whoppers next week.

lying to the media isnt as quite as easy as it seems imho, theres an art to it, he can get away w/the one speech but unless he ups his game fast hes cooked

it will be interesting to see how far backward the fact checkers bend at the dnc to maintain the illusion of objectivity

I don't think ryan has a bio he can run on

the lying part I don't think really matters

i think hes like the hardcore conservative that has his shit together and is not a total clown m/l, seeing how the crowd went apeshit for him i was like whoa, and i kinda felt like i understood what they were looking for in him

being labeled as a liar is v much nagl when people are just getting to know you

i cant recall a reaction like the medias over ryans speech, its like fine lie to us but dont humiliate us or we might have to call you on it

eh I think if you did a national poll atm and tried to get attributes that people attach to paul ryan, the result would bel ike 30% "budget hawk' 30% "no not a budget hawk" "40% I do not know who that man is"

The lying expose on Fox is STILL the number four trending story on there.

xp i kinda doubt thats accurate but anyway what matters is what people think of him in a few months and then in a few years and hes really got off on the wrong foot after starting from a position of strength

does anyone here watch leno? what would the paul ryan easy-political-caricature joke be at this point?

the marathon thing feels like kind of a big deal somehow. it's like, most ppl don't know the history of general motors in janesville, wi or exactly what happened during the debt ceiling negotiations. but lying -- by a lot! and wholly unnecessarily! -- about one's running time is a straight-up asshole move that ppl can readily identify

ryan is carcetti, no?
he can only make it so far using this model

xp such perfect shorthand for "you're full of shit and arrogant too"

JAY LENO: Mitt Romney told People magazine his favorite movie is O Brother, Where Art Thou? You know, the George Clooney movie? That was a good movie. Paul Ryan's favorite film is Throw Momma from the Train, 'cause it reminds him of his Medicare policies.

ha

"It looks like Hurricane Isaac has delayed the Republican convention for one day. This is a big storm. In fact, Isaac has scared more senior citizens than Paul Ryan." -Jay Leno

just the very idea that ryan is the BEST they've got. man oh man i mean that is so fucked up.

although you know at one point kerry and dukakis were the best the dems had. still, even kerry and dukakis look like abe lincoln and mary friggin' todd lincoln compared to ryan.

ps why am I googling Jay Leno jokes about Paul Ryan, it's Labor Day weekend, where's my fucking beer

yes but Clint was FUNNY y'all!

well there you go xp

I genuinely believe that comedy probably plays a bigger role than people think in defining national politicians. there was some papaer about the tina fey effect w/r/t sarah palin.

i liked the daily show thing on clint. that was funny.

love the 0 by the way. 0 is my new favorite number.

It appears that Mitt Romney will get absolutely no support from the African-American community—literally. According to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, 94 percent of Black voters support President Barack Obama compared to zero percent of those same voters who plan to vote for Romney, the Republican presidential candidate.

ZERO PRECENT. hahaha!

well there is a margin of error, so its possible he will get -3%

i hope mitt loses worse than anyone has ever lost in history.

don't dis Alf Landon!

McGovern will take some beating...

yes but Clint was FUNNY y'all!

i had to post a comment responding to that. it's like they didn't even listen to the content of the speech. the problem isn't the way the information was delivered. the problem was that the information that was delivered seemed deeply ambivalent about Romney at best.

i don't know why i'm acting all surprised. jonah is just a paperback propagandist

the content doesn't really matter, there are more people who now know clint eastwood talked to a chair than actually watched the speech

You keep saying that things don't matter - lying doesn't matter, the content doesn't matter.

Has there been any discussion of the content of the chair? Was it oak, walnut, maple, or some other kind of wood? Maybe it was plastic or metal. Was it a folding chair or solid? I'm sure Eastwood didn't grab just any old random chair.

most stuff doesn't matter because almost nobody in america follows politics very closely

and the people who do already knew what box they were gonna check a year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_6vnKiowzk

Also, the simple fact that Clint Eastwood felt comfortable riffing about how Obama’s got to go, has to help others get over that psychological barrier — which was a big theme of the whole convention — is a significant cultural breakthrough.

yep, big cultural breakthrough getting a speaker at the RNC to riff about how Obama should not be reelected.

newsflash: nothing matters, ppl are stupid, end thread now

glad we cleared that up

I watched this in a mcdonalds and the guy next to me asked who was on tv during the romney speech

if we ensure that republicans aren't voting for obama then we're getting somewhere!

People who hang out at McDonalds for free wifi and/or lack of anything better to do might not be representative of the electorate.

they're prob more representative than people itt

Whose company do you prefer?

eh