Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

gus

Tuco still the best antagonist.

I kind of agree although I know the cult of gus has made that claim seem like a challop now.

TYRUS 4 LYFE

Tyrus

now you're just making up names

Tuco.

Oh, I just realised that Todd's connections inside prison will be useful for offing Mike's guys. That was probably obvious, but I couldn't think of a way for Walt to get to them. D'oh.

Good spot, I hadn't twigged to that

wk otm, the only people who remember Tyrus are ilx thread-trolls

i'll have you know Tyrus came in ahead of walter white in a board-wide poll

I am keenly aware of this "poll"

the look on tyrus' face was never not funny

I remember his laundry-hamper one-liner quite fondly.

t/s: two-face gus vs. tuco's grill

I think maybe you could divide the show into two distinct sections.

Act 1: WW the controlling, nerdy chemistry teacher tries to create order within the chaotic meth trade
Act 2: Now way out of his depth, WW's unpredictable actions bring chaos to the rational and highly organized upper echelons of the drug trade

The introduction of gus might have been the dividing line? And your take on tuco vs. gus might have something to do with which of those stories you find more compelling? Or this is more crazy monday morning screenwriting?

Tuco was such a one-note character, dunno what anybody loved about that guy. Gus was kind of interesting, I guess, would've liked to have known more about his Chilean background (and why he was spared by whatsisname from Scarface)

Tuco was not a one note character. I'm not sure Tyrus even had a note.

I thought Walter trying to explain what's going on with him by claiming to have a gambling addiction was, effectively, accurate. I miss Gus! he had style and was so entertaining, like when he's overly, excessively polite to people he completely hates

It seemed like the Chile thing was not thought out at the time and maybe they won't bother going back to it, I can't see what it would add to the show where it is right now - maybe it's better to leave it with, that's likely not his real name and there's no record. but the backstory that I guess they have to fill in is the reason this German conglomerate is involved in the drug trade and connected to Gus' operation and to what extent and how that came about?

i think we're better off not knowing. like you say, how much could that really add to the story at this point to find out how Gus hooked up with Madrigal, built his empire, etc. we know enough about Gus more or less

I was thinking of it more in terms of - hmmm huge drug lord wouldn't kill Gus when he was nobody because he "knew who he was", implying bigger powers-that-be at work, ie, people who might come after Walt for killing Gus.

ie, Gus not the top of the pyramid

but I'm just idly speculating, entirely likely/possible/reasonable that this is just a thread left dangling out there

for one thing, it's a little late in the narrative to introduce an even bigger villain, so that's probably not going to happen

tite tite tite

yeah kinda weird that we've gone 7 episodes without learning jack shit about how madrigal really works

Madrigal: the truth is out there

still wanna know what was so scary to that dude who killed himself

selling mediocre meth to Albuquerque is all part of a bigger grand plan.

mediocre?

it's just your typical German fried chicken and meth conglomerate. I'm not sure what else there is to know.

still wanna know what was so scary to that dude who killed himself

The German? Maybe going to jail for a long, long time?

I don't think we need to know more about Gus' backstory, best shrouded in mystery. Having said that I would watch a 'Gus rises to power' miniseries.

xp i don't know, his dispassionate chicken nugget testing made me believe there was something... darker

buys volvo, rest solves itself.

I wonder what kind of car Gale drove

mediocre?

Until Walt showed up

gale seems like a subaru guy

fun fact: tuco was supposed to be a long term character but the actor left to do another show

still wanna know what was so scary to that dude who killed himself

― Nhex, Friday, August 31, 2012 7:24 PM (44 minutes ago)

upstanding ppl of the community who get caught doing crimes have been known to off themselves to avoid public shame, I read his suicide as an old school honor type thing, he seemed more bummed than frightened

not something we're ever gonna find out but i do wonder what gus's meth operation was pre-walt, pre-superlab.

wasnt he getting his product from the cartel

I keep meaning to ask a dumb question: do large scale commercial labs like that actually exist? Or is most meth cooked up "Cap'n Cook" style? I know there was that big acid lab in the missle silo or whatever. What was the most impressive known meth lab that got busted?

i read something recently abt the veracity of breaking bad and they said super labs often much larger than the ones depicted in the show exist in mexico but not the usa

I see. makes sense.

there was a massive one in the Central Valley in Cali, and another huge one in Texas (?) that I remember seeing on Frontline. The Cali one was in the middle of huge feedlot farm, kinda like Gus's chicken ranch

but those were shut down like 10 years ago.

ya iirc a lot of the cooking moved to mexico when they really started cracking down over here

They always seem to be busting labs in suburban homes around where I grew up
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/San-Jose-Meth-Bust-One-of-the-Biggest-in-US-History-141268763.html

I don't know anything about the technology, but just visually, the kind of equipment they're using on BB seems really sophisticated. This stuff looks more like what I would expect. http://stopthedrugwar.org/print/28867

that's what you use if you want only 70% purity, some tepid off-brand generic cola

the more you know

http://methlabhomes.com/