Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

walt crowing about killing gus did seem like a terrible idea. telling your new boss that you blew up your last one may not be the best way to earn his trust.

Mike's eyerolls in the background behind Walt's "Say my name" standoff were so otm. Like, "THIS is your fucking plan? Great idea, asshole."

hardly his boss, but yeah bad idea

walt basically needs to grow a moustache so they can have him twirl it

i don't think it was just walt not being able to take a truth bomb that was the problem, though - he'd also have felt that by not giving him the 9 names mike was leaving him to have everything collapse around him. hence regretting it once he remembered that mike not telling him wasn't actually that big a deal. i think as a trigger point for walt it more or less made sense.

It was also that Walt's put it out there that Gus wasn't killed by a mostly defunct/dead Mexican drug cartel after all. Presumably only he, Mike, Skyler and Jesse knew about it, now he's gone and told some dude who will have many reasons and opportunities to develop a grudge against Walt.

showboating is always a bad tactical move

The names weren't the catalyst. and using it as an apology after was kind of bullshit too, instead of saying 'I shouldn't have lost my temper'...he's already grasping for the names as his excuse, to make THAT why he pulled the trigger and not his stupid ego. It was Mike telling him that HE fucked it up for everyone. That he's not a genius, that he's an idiot and once again Mike gets to act like he's smarter than Walt and Walt is just not fucking having it. Especially with a gun in his pocket. I mean, I think he took the gun knowing that he might have to threaten Mike to get the names but I think it was Walt's ego that pulled the trigger, plain and simple.

If the names were really the catalyst he'd have threatened Mike properly.

What did Walt say to Mike after Walt said "Everybody wins" that convinced Mike to not shoot Walt and drive into the desert to the drug meet? It doesn't make sense to me that Mike would go for the plan as it actually went down.

yup xxp

It doesn't make sense to me that Mike would go for the plan as it actually went down

He didn't have much choice except to go for the plan, Walt had already hidden the methylamine

What did Walt say to Mike after Walt said "Everybody wins" that convinced Mike to not shoot Walt and drive into the desert to the drug meet?

$5 million dollars

It's like Walt's the precocious 5 year old at the grownups party and Mike's all OKAY FINE PUT ON YOUR DAMN SHOW NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT OUR ATTENTION

Mike's eyerolls in the background behind Walt's "Say my name" standoff were so otm. Like, "THIS is your fucking plan? Great idea, asshole."

Yeah, immediately after the cold open, I was all like, "If only Walt was as legendary IRL as he is in his mind." And then I had a moment where I was all like, "Well, things do seem to unaccountably going his way." But sure enough, by episode's end, Walt did plenty to justify Mike's incredulous eyerolls.

*gets shot* *rolls eyes justifiably*

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this ep was dumb

The only level on which I still sympathize with Walt is in the way that his mind formulates plans. He's super-adaptable and great at thinking on his feet but there's absolutely no nuance or deep strategy in terms of his long-term planning, which leads to shit always falling apart and constant maneuvering around unanticipated obstacles. It's a pretty accurate depiction of how poorly I'd function in a life of crime.

agree this episode was pretty snoozy/predictable. only real lol was Walt insisting to Jesse that nobody else was going to have to die and then immediately killing another dude and putting 9 more guys on his deathlist.

snoozy?

I got lol'd at by Mr Veg for shouting at the tv when Walt shot Mike

Where did Mike get that gun that Walt took out of his hand at the end. If he had a gun all along why did he need the one that should have been in the bag?

yeah I didn't get that either

seems unlikely that he'd let Walt get the drop on him if he had a gun

he had a gun w/him, he didnt need the other one it was just in his go bag

idg why these things are at all hard to understand, too busy snoozing perhaps

this episode was great imho, the final scene was powerful, and ilx tv threads are the worst thing on the internet

so, he has a gun on him, but isn't quick enough to get to it in the time it takes for Walt to go back to his car, get his gun, and walk back to Mike's car and shoot him? okay.

xp

wow shakey maybe he didnt realize walt was gonna shoot him when he started walking back to his car

mike doesn't actually go around shooting ppl he works with closely, unlike walt, why bc he has a bit of self control

mike doesn't actually go around shooting ppl he works with closely

these are the ONLY ppl he's shot iirc

mike shouldve realized walt was capable of shooting him, mike also shouldve had a better plan on how to distribute the cash to his guys, he also shouldve not left his go bag at the airport, mike fucked up a lot

he habitually underestimated walt

well yeah

We still haven't even learned anything about Madrigal. I want more nugget tasting scenes.

Yeah I don't think Mike thought Walt would have either the reason or the balls to shoot him.

The look of shock on Walt's face when he realised what he'd done was pretty funny.

this is the first time walt just got mad and killed someone because they disrespected him no, thats kind of an ultimate statement of degradation

otm

yeah he's pretty much left 'old Walt' behind now

The "say my name" speech highlighted for me one of the major reasons I love this show. I get a visceral thrill out of watching this dork continually succeed despite himself and the dumb and risky decisions he makes. All while heading toward an inevitably spectacular fall.

There's almost a Being There quality to Walt's success that's amusing and oddly believable.

I don't know if people underestimate Walt so much as overestimate him. They make the mistake of assuming he's going to do the smart, rational thing and he never does.

I loved the pleased face Walt made after he tasted the microwaved dinner.

the fact that he thought he could sit at the table and talk about 'work' with Skylar was so much equal parts sad and lol

this episode was great imho, the final scene was powerful, and ilx tv threads are the worst thing on the internet

― lag∞n, Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:43 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

co-signed

I'm still enjoying it, but I have to say it does get a little dour and oppressive at times. I only realized this when Odenkirk came on and I felt this wave of relief. Something has to give soon, and of course, I suppose it will.

I mind of miss the sense of Albuquerque as "a character" (I realize this is a cliche) that you got in the earlier seasons. The claustrophobia of these recent episodes is pretty unrelenting, even if it is justified.

ya i love the sense of place

I read somewhere that it was originally going to be set in suburban LA and they only shot it in ABQ because of tax breaks.

yeah, Riverside County