Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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feel bad for mike, walt is such a weenus

lag∞n, Monday, 27 August 2012 03:30 (thirteen years ago)

mike's ghost should haunt walt hardcore next season. throwing plates and shit

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 August 2012 03:55 (thirteen years ago)

I lost track of all the intrigue specifics on Walt/Jesse/two random dealers. My overall take on this show (been watching all the past seasons just recently) is that I wish they made it without Walt in it.

I'm not certain that Mike won't get out of this, it was a cliffhanger for a reason. why was he watching "the big heat"?

LOL @ you can do what you want with the bacon cookies gift - that's what they said about the poisoned tequila

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 27 August 2012 03:57 (thirteen years ago)

My overall take on this show (been watching all the past seasons just recently) is that I wish they made it without Walt in it.

this.... makes absolutely no sense.

(whose paintings looked like (pink) vaginas) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:00 (thirteen years ago)

It's not complicated, I find every other character a lot more interesting and less annoying than Walt, is just my take on it. maybe the meth heads with the ATM were more annoying than Walt but that's about it?

Mike was watching a particular scene in Big Heat about a police suicide. What was up with that gesture from Hank?

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:04 (thirteen years ago)

fuck I lost my surrogate son. we used to have so much fun cookin meth. well I guess those days are gone pour out a little methylamine for Jesse P. who was that other guy Todd something? cool you are my son now too! badass this will be fun sorry that you are dumb and unplagued by conscience

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)

Walt's big speech mentioning Gale only in the comment about all the people they've killed, just to mess with Jesse a little extra.
Todd is going to go work for someone else ASAP once he finishes taking those notes?

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:18 (thirteen years ago)

The thing that I found most unlikely was Mike being willing to let Walt deliver the bag. Jesse woulda been fine doing it and it made no sense for him to talk with Walt involved in any case.
Otherwise yeah, endgame here

The muted sensation feels amazeballs. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:34 (thirteen years ago)

maybe he wanted to yell at walt one last time

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 27 August 2012 04:38 (thirteen years ago)

also walt firing solely out of anger is basically out of character even at this point in the storyline
don't really give a fuck, just sayin

The muted sensation feels amazeballs. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:39 (thirteen years ago)

eh, you know walt's been holding a grudge against since waaay back when mike kicked his ass in the bar, and walt's hubris IS outta control

Nhex, Monday, 27 August 2012 04:40 (thirteen years ago)

I didn't see Mike actually fall over until the repeat. ugh.
Who doesn't Walt hold a grudge against? the baby? but I'm not sure

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:43 (thirteen years ago)

you know, just occurred to me that maybe the "I realized I could get the names from lydia" was walt's way of saying "i'll take care of those guys and that just leaves you as a loose end" but that's countermanded by the way he sorta freaks out by having shot mike and gets all sorry bout killing you dude with him
but yeah, that's a wrinkle deeper
still. no way he asks fucking WALT to bring him a bag with a gun. but given how good this is, it feels lame to complain.

The muted sensation feels amazeballs. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 August 2012 04:44 (thirteen years ago)

I felt like at first that was what he's saying "I wasn't going to kill you but I realized I could get the names from lydia, sorry." But then I thought he was saying that he was sorry because if he had just gotten the names from lydia then he wouldn't have even had to show up to give mike the bag and they wouldn't have had their little spat.

I think it's pretty nuanced either way.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 27 August 2012 04:57 (thirteen years ago)

Walt is in full Denzel/Training Day mode now, jesus christ he is outta control with his hubris

Todd's gonna lull Walt into a state of familiarity bc Walt has ZERO guile & then Todd will flip the script & cap Walt/rat him out/whatever

Hope Mike survives & pops Walt in the back of the head right through his dumb hat

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 August 2012 06:28 (thirteen years ago)

Walt has a ton of guile, that's why he's still alive

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 27 August 2012 06:37 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcet0JX1f8Q

The muted sensation feels amazeballs. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 August 2012 06:51 (thirteen years ago)

classic + classic.

Nhex, Monday, 27 August 2012 06:53 (thirteen years ago)

I loved that "Say my name" and "You're damn right!" stuff. guy thinks he's Shaft or something.

Dan I., Monday, 27 August 2012 08:08 (thirteen years ago)

A+ use of Monkees track.

A Pick Up Artist's Guide to Negative Approach (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 27 August 2012 08:43 (thirteen years ago)

i was thinking that i'd never hated walt more than when he was doing his stern-but-caring dad act with jesse, but then

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 August 2012 08:51 (thirteen years ago)

actually the stern-but-caring dad thing is still worse, who among us has not murdered someone after getting a bit angry.

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 August 2012 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

Walt shooting in anger isn't really out of character - no-one's really called him on his bullshit the way Mike did, and I imagine that was pretty devastating to him.

"You. And your pride and your ego. You just had to be the man. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now."

Such a good scene. But even if there wasn't a gun in the bag, Walt could just as easily have brought his own, presumably. And I guess Mike didn't want Jesse to deliver it out of some degree of affection, knowing it might be dangerous.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Monday, 27 August 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)

i liked saul's drawerful of phones. i miss the days when people were snapping phones every five minutes. i also liked walt's attempt at work small talk over dinner. that'll be his downfall when he invites hank and marie over. "so i was down the meth lab today and OH BALLS."

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 August 2012 10:34 (thirteen years ago)

Was there a hidden camera in Hank's office filming Walt's switcheroo, or was that just a trick?

Enjoyed this episode a lot. All of the betrayal's backfiring on Walt. It was a relief to see Mike's indignation finally surface, after too many episodes of the writers indulging his blase, wisened hitman-with-a-heart persona as an unconvincing foil for Walt's self-aggrandizement. I don't like it when writers become too aware of their characters, and it got a little predictable and schticky at times recently, imo. Aaron Paul and Jonathan Banks both outplaying Cranston in this ep, lines were perfect, but I liked how Cranston brought a touch of the old insecure, reactionary Walt back into the character. Again, a few inexplicable plot points, esp. related to Mike's MO, but on the whole beautifully paced, and the editing stood out. Felt a little bit more like the Coens' last few films in that respect. Skylar scenes seemed unnecessary at first, as if anyone needed a reminder, but Jesse's righteous anger needed another trigger, and who better than the humanising figure to set him off with nary a word. Waiting on Marie to throw a spanner in the works with an ill-advised attempt at restoring normality.

Yam, Monday, 27 August 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

A+ use of Monkees track.

YES.

Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Monday, 27 August 2012 11:43 (thirteen years ago)

feel bad for mike, walt is such a weenus

― lag∞n, Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is honestly my takeaway, exactly

johnny crunch, Monday, 27 August 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Mike had to die. Dionysus demanded it. :(

the so-called socialista (dowd), Monday, 27 August 2012 12:26 (thirteen years ago)

mike's ghost should haunt walt hardcore next season. throwing plates and shit

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:55 PM

mysterious sighs that seem to come from nowhere

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Monday, 27 August 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)

Was there a hidden camera in Hank's office filming Walt's switcheroo, or was that just a trick?

feel like something like this is gonna come out & set off hank v walt for the last 8. we know mikes been listening in a lot, so would he set up walt? yes probably. he makes it a pt to say go get the bugs, plans on ttly getting out, tells jesse to look out for himself & u wont 'see me around' etc..

johnny crunch, Monday, 27 August 2012 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

it is also a p good way for mike 2 have revenge from beyond the grave, zoom on walts eyes, flashback 2 mike "make sure you get the bugs", cut to walt on the run arranging bacon in mirror s-forms

johnny crunch, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)

building a meth lab at the table in his mashed potatoes

The muted sensation feels amazeballs. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 August 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

close encounters of the tweaked kind

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Monday, 27 August 2012 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

also walt firing solely out of anger is basically out of character even at this point in the storyline
don't really give a fuck, just sayin

― The muted sensation feels amazeballs. (forksclovetofu), Monday, August 27, 2012 12:39 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

i thought that was perfectly played. less calculated mastermind, more 'i have a gun and im furious with this guy' which i bet is how a lot of people get shot. walt's body language when he shoots him is great, he sorta stabs at mike as he fires and then immediately shits his pants as he realizes what hes done

Hungry4Ass, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

ya, dude is still terrible at getting his hands dirty.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

walt's body language when he shoots him is great, he sorta stabs at mike as he fires and then immediately shits his pants as he realizes what hes done

yeah that was amazing, just great physical acting

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

less calculated mastermind, more 'i have a gun and im furious with this guy'

seemed like some part of walt was planning to shoot mike from the get-go. driven by saul's warning that mike would roll on them if he got nabbed, plus the possibility that walt realized the only reason mike wasn't already in DEA custody was total chance. he took the gun out of the holster for a reason.

preparing myself for next weeks cold open with walt n todd painstakingly dismantling mike's car

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Monday, 27 August 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

as soon as Mike gave his little "I'm out" speech at the beginning of the episode I said "welp, Mike's gonna die" (and he was just one day away from retirement etc)

The Radioheads are massive in the Man community (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 August 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

also Todd = death in German I bet things don't work out too well with that guy

The Radioheads are massive in the Man community (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 August 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

seemed like walt was willing to let mike live if he would just say thank you

lag∞n, Monday, 27 August 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Walter = death in Hungarian
also the name of Lincoln's child

The muted sensation feels amazeballs. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/jonathan-banks-of-breaking-bad-discusses-sundays-episode/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

Q. You’ve had a long career and other great roles, and then “Breaking Bad” gives you a new opportunity to connect with people and sink your teeth into a good character. When something like that comes along, do you think to yourself, “Hey, I’ve been here all along – why are people only just being reminded of what I’ve done?”

A. I’m going to speak to you directly. Here’s the difference in our ages. I’ve been alive so long that it doesn’t surprise me at all. All the wonderful actors out there that languish, as trite as it may sound, you say to somebody: “You go into this business, you better not go in for the money. And you certainly better not go in it for the fame. You better love it because you love the art.” So at 65 years old, do I feel like, oh, jeez, I wish this, that, dada dada? If I do feel that, it is certainly less than it used to be. And the balm of being able to do “Breaking Bad” and play Mike cures a lot of those feelings. It’s a long-winded way of saying, I’ve been around long enough that I know it ain’t fair.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

you should know better than to front on Hungarian in my presence bro lol

xp

The Radioheads are massive in the Man community (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:15 (thirteen years ago)

reminds me of similar interview Harris gave after Lane's death on Mad Men

The Radioheads are massive in the Man community (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

seemed like walt was willing to let mike live if he would just say thank you

― lag∞n, Monday, August 27, 2012 8:42 AM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is so otm. it reminded me of that Mr Wolf scene with Vince in Pulp Fiction - 'Please would be nice'.

That was kind of what I was (unintelligibly) trying to get at by saying Walt has no guile. Sure, he knows how to deceive people moment to moment, but his ego will never let him be say, as calculating as Mike. All you really would have to do to get over on Walt would be to appeal to his ego, to his need to be 'the genius'. I dunno if Todd's that guy but I feel like that's bound to happen sooner or later.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

So...can we safely assume Mike is dead? The falling over seems pretty solid symbolically, but I don't know if I can take it for granted until he's been dissolved in acid.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

The NYT interview confirms it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, it was taking forever to load so I skipped it. Guess I'll have to go and read it now.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Sure, he knows how to deceive people moment to moment, but his ego will never let him be say, as calculating as Mike. All you really would have to do to get over on Walt would be to appeal to his ego, to his need to be 'the genius'. I dunno if Todd's that guy but I feel like that's bound to happen sooner or later.

Yeah, this is pretty much in line with my belief that ego is the ultimate downfall of any human endeavor that falls down.

Also, re: Todd, he is neither as dumb nor as genuinely deferential as he appears. Would not be at all surprised to see him ultimately steal the business out from under Walt.

Old Lunch, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)


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