Lance Armstrong is a God

Kind of a big deal because he was trying to become the best IronMan triathlete in the world and he won't be able to compete in IronMan events anymore. Other than that, no fucks given.

Nike are standing by him but I wonder if anyone is going to try and reclaim prize money or sponsorship; then it would go to court.

Nike also stands by the sad dead sweatshop workers

Lance Armstrong, Louis Armstrong, Stretch Armstrong--all dopers.

http://www.bicycling.com/print/67431

good interview with JV on doping stuff

this was really good, thanks

http://inrng.com/2012/08/lance-armstrong-quits/

That Jonathan Vaughters interview was great. Thanks.

Nike are standing by him but I wonder if anyone is going to try and reclaim prize money or sponsorship; then it would go to court.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed),

the inrng article says:

If USADA rules there is a doping offence, imposes a lifetime ban and says he should be stripped of his wins then this applies worldwide. It is then for the UCI, as cycling’s governing body, to await the decision and issue the formal notice stripping Armstrong of his wins which it must do to comply with the WADA Code. All prize monies must be repaid too.

They can't go after sponsorships, but whatever thousands/millions he won as prize money he has to repay. Damn.

"But I snorted it all up my nose oh wait."

I wonder what % of his income went to doping & trying to beat doping tests?

I'm surprised this hasn't been used more:

https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23quitstrong

There's still the SCA Promotions case

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12122/SCA-Promotions-will-monitor-USADA-case-against-ArmstrongUS-Postal-Service.aspx

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have never followed Lance and his "sport" (a race where you get off the bike a few times to sleep, riiiight) but anything to stop singling out baseball is fine.

fuck baseball

yeah I'm fine if regular idiots stop following it and join yr club

have never followed Lance and his "sport" (a race where you get off the bike a few times to sleep, riiiight) but anything to stop singling out baseball is fine.

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 24, 2012 10:54 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huge lol at the idea that baseball has been "singled out" as the dopingest sport that ever doped when a) no one outside of america gives a shit and b) the peloton was doing PEDs when you were still a regularly-aged person. the notion that baseball is the locus of bad behavior is exclusively american; cycling has had a publicly bad rep w/r/t doping for at least 20 years

I speak of America, man, furrin sportz make my eyes glaze over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling

1886!

glaze over, like an idiot

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a regularly-aged person

idk obviously i have no interest in cycling but.....presumably this dude was quite good as riding bicycles anyway? so that he would still have had at least some success if he didn't use drugs? it's an interesting example of unbridled venality

In 1886 an English cyclist is popularly reputed to have died after drinking a blend of cocaine, caffeine and strychnine, supposedly in the Bordeaux–Paris race.

which one (1) of these ingredients might not have been well chosen

Surprised that LeMond has had the good sense to stay quiet on this.

But the Raiders have a new dude on defense called HeiNACHO which I mean, how can that not be good :D

Th

idk obviously i have no interest in cycling but.....presumably this dude was quite good as riding bicycles anyway? so that he would still have had at least some success if he didn't use drugs? it's an interesting example of unbridled venality

He probably never wins a Tour, which would mean he'd be basically anonymous in America.

oh i'm pretty sure he's just savoring it xp

idk obviously i have no interest in cycling but.....presumably this dude was quite good as riding bicycles anyway? so that he would still have had at least some success if he didn't use drugs?

I have no interest in or knowledge of the sport (or any for that matter) and my attitude to doping has always been that it's just where modern science has taken us and it's dumb to ban it. But that interview linked upthread by haitch was very interesting and informative. About halfway through he explains why legalized doping is a bad idea and why having all of the athletes doping doesn't actually create a level playing field.

If they couldn't produce a bad test in 2009 then it's either not possible or Armstrong was clean. Because he was tested constantly that year--both at home, while training, on the racecourse, both announced and unannounced. And they still have those blood samples. He was tested far more than any other cyclist that year.

And if he was clean that year, then his racing was astounding for someone his age.

yeah sadly this is going to demolish Armstong's reputation, but doping or no, doing all this while passing a zillion drug tests is still pretty impressive

that JV interview is fantastic

there is nothing sad and everything hilarious about lance armstrong being stripped of 7 tour titles imo.

Yup.

i don't know how i'll feel when my ipod tells me "i'm lance armstrong and that was your longest run yet!". ha!

Surprised that LeMond has had the good sense to stay quiet on this.

― hot slag (lukas), Friday, 24 August 2012 11:19 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cathy LeMond Tweeted one word: "Finally"

yeah sadly this is going to demolish Armstong's reputation, but doping or no, doing all this while passing a zillion drug tests is still pretty impressive

― frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 11:39 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know why it is sad that this will destroy lance's reputation, he was cheat in an era of cheats and his rubber band racket cancer "charity" is a self aggrandising sham. I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse but they say his brand is bigger than cycling.

Betsy Andreu was much less circumspect

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article/2012/08/24/betsy-andreu-lance-armstrong-a-ramene-le-sport-a-l-epoque-de-la-rda_1751099_3242.html

"yeah I'm fine if regular idiots stop following it and join yr club"

if regular idiots stopped following baseball there wouldn't be a baseball. or a football. or a basketball. or a hockey.

I don't know why it is sad that this will destroy lance's reputation, he was cheat in an era of cheats and his rubber band racket cancer "charity" is a self aggrandising sham. I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse but they say his brand is bigger than cycling.

yeah and i'm pretty sure as long as there are ways to cheat there will be ways to get around the testing somehow. and i feel like he's been using the charity as a reputation shield in recent years.

"I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse "

this will happen within a couple of weeks, i imagine?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-retains-support-of-nike-and-other-companies.html

yeah i dunno -- i've a sense that stripping him many years later when he hasn't admitted anything won't sway the non-cycling public all that much.

if ppl liked him (like andy pettitte) they'll continue to; if ppl hated him (like barry bonds) they'll continue to.

i imagine that most americans are like, dude won a really hard foreign commie sport a bunch of times where everyone else was doping too -- big deal

fuck him if he can't be bothered to show up in court anymore, not the type of petulant quitter move i expect from a man who can beat testicle cancer and the alps five times.

well, he'll always have LIVESTRONG and anna's teat to comfort himself on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGtfpzT4Lqw

snap

rip juan pelota

http://cavalierfc.tumblr.com/post/30172302298/its-not-about-the-bike

Good history in podcast form

http://velocastcc.squarespace.com/race-radio/2012/8/27/lance-armstrong-special-edition.html

why do people hate him again? what's this 'cartel' ish

read that link, it's right there

(a race where you get off the bike a few times to sleep, riiiight)

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 24, 2012 11:54 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know right, you dont see baseball players all sleeping between games and shit

Thanks for that Balls, Wheels, Doping article.

I am astounded that Nike haven't dropped his sorry arse but they say his brand is bigger than cycling.

They still sponsor Tiger Woods? Nike doesn't have a problem with sketchy people if they think they're still capable of generating them some cash.