~~~~~nutrition nazis 2012~~~~~

actually i didn't get so hungry on the oats but i had to eat a lot. before that i would usually have either whole grain toast and a yogurt or 10-grain cereal and being hungry way before lunch was a thing all the time. i didn't eat any grains monday or tuesday but then i had some pita bread at dinner last night after some beers. i think i can get into the no grain lifestyle though.

I read some complicated article about why a lot of ppl get so hungry so quickly after breakfast, and why it's ok to not eat breakfast, but it was to do with hormones and insulin and I don't even know if it's reliable. But it made me feel better about not being a breakfast eater.

i never eat breakfast during the work week

there's a variation on intermittent fasting that skips breakfast and pushes lunch late - so that if you have dinner by 8PM and lunch at 1PM, you're fasting 17 hours but sleeping for (presumably) almost half that.

right that brand of IF is identified with that leangains guy nowadays at least with strength conditioning messageboard people

cool program because it's just so simple to follow and you immediately remove thinkijng about feeding yourself from most of the day's thoughtprocessing. but i think a lot of what he has to say might qualify as "broscience" and most of the benefit is just hard to eat calories over maint in a small window especially on lowcarb whole foods

coconut milk, yea or nay? it's obv fatty, but my research is conflicted about whether even a reduced fat version is good/bad.

this is the wrong thread to say "it's delicious, fuck it" i guess

further research is suggesting yea

There aren't many good scientific studiess on dietary coconut milk or oil and human health. Some finds from pubmed:

Here's a fairly positive and likely biased review article, which primarily notes the antimicrobial and antioxidant benefits of coconut. But many of the reviewed articles are in vitro or for topical use, with few good human/animal dietary studies.

Coconut oil and palm oil increase HDL-C (good) cholesterol compared to lard

On the other hand:

High coconut oil diets without excess calories induce artherosclerosis in rabbits. There are actually quite a few studies in which rodent heart disease is induced by adding coconut oil to chow going back decades - it appears to be a standard experimental setup (here's another), with the experiments testing whether another nutrient can prevent deleterious effects.

Meals with coconut milk (Singaporean Nasi Lemak: rice cooked in coconut milk) are as bad for human endothelial function as an Egg McMuffin.

So, skim coconut milk may in fact be beneficial, but the fatty portion of whole coconut milk, despite the HDL elevation, appears as bad for your arteries as butter or lard.

xxxp you're talking about actual coconut milk that comes in cans and not coconut milk beverage?

Is it possible that in eating paleo-ish for a few solid months about a year ago, I set myself up to react to carbs more strongly than before? I liked eating paleo-ish, but I fell off the wagon. Before I started, I would get sugar spikes/crashes from carbs and get hungry very suddenly. Now, after the paleo-ish interlude, back on the carbs, this seems much worse. I get insanely, desperately hungry even more suddenly.

Its plausible. If you were getting most of your fuel from ketosis it would naturally upregulate all the glucose transporters in glucose starved cells.

I didn't think I was eating low-carb enough to enter ketosis (had tons of veg and fruit) but who knows, maybe I was... Or maybe I'm just eating even more carbs now than I was pre-paleo.

I've read that insulin spikes can lead to increased appetite. Maybe that's what was going on.

still not ready for full nn steez but solidly trying to eat healthy + less + better (also exercise wow)

today I learned that I like cottage cheese! mum used to eat it when she did weight watchers and ugh it was so watery and bland and slimy and gross I swore I would never eat it again

today = rice cakes & cottage cheese with some lemon pepper oh hi yum!

(i didn't know where else to post)

Cottage cheese on baked potatoes is the best (not paleo I know...)

ooh i will try that

don't eat potatoes much these days but come wintertime that might be one to try

cut up cherry tomatoes and green pepper and add it to your cottage cheese

substitute cuke for the pepper if you don't like green pepper

! will try!

prefer green pepper cooked vs raw: cukes otm tho

had free pizza for lunch, ugh

going with a smoothie and hard boiled eggs and spinach for dinner

I need to do some hardboiling of eggs tonight

damn I love hb eggs

What do you eat them with hard-boiled? I should eat more eggs for breakfast but I tend to go for soft-boiled, but then I have to have toast.

soy sauce

yeah something salty

dash of salt or soy

I like them cold, on their own

maybe a bit of salt - if they're super yummy eggs then nothing

I have trouble with the texture of the runny yolk when they're soft-boiled, it kinda skeeves me out for some reason

Tbh I slice one medium-boiled egg and spread it on one bialy and salt it. It's not paleo, but it is delicious.

soft boiled eggs are the best

I've never had a bialy. now I want one

x-post - You're not alone, VG. I can't stomach runny yolk at all. Runny yolk makes me feel sick.

Bialys are really, REALLY good. They're small, and kind of sour like sourdough, and have a more doughy/chewy texture than a bagel or bread. I scrape the mushy onions out of the middles but some people love the onions, so if that's your thing....

I like bialys onions and all.

I also personally find a bialy a reasonable portion size, kind of like an English muffin but denser, whereas a New York bagel is basically two meals at this point.

I'll have to keep my eye out for them, I tend not to eat bagels because there's just too much

Never had them either, wanna try. Googling reveals one (1) place to buy them here.

googling reveals zero (0) places to buy in Sacto

;_;

but maybe I can get some next time I'm in San Francisco, so all is not lost

am going to try almond milk

any brand recommendations? I'm guessing unsweetened is the way to go?

Silk Pure Almond unsweetened!

Sweetened is still only like 60 cals per cup. Ytth likes the trader joe's stuff

Unsweetened Almond Breeze is my usual purchase. The sweetened variety isn't that bad, but the unsweetened kind has more utility for creaming up savory soups, etc.

I'm planning to use it in coffee and I don't really use sweetener at all so I figured unsweetened would be best

you can get unsweetened vanilla if it doesn't grab you.
wanna throw out another vote for VANILLA RICE MILK, underappreciated substitute milk of the substitute milks, but sure try almond why not.

<3 I will bear that in mind schlump

The only veggie milk I can definitely vote against is the kind of soy milk sold fresh in Asian groceries. It really does taste like liquid edamane, which is just odd. Western soy milk is rather different, and way more palatable (to Westerners, at any rate).

western soy milk is undrinkable fwiw

1 head steamed cauli
1 can white beans
a little milk if needed
a little tiny bit of butter (optional)
plenty of salt of and pepper
into the food processor

= super tasty alternative to mashed potatoes