Moneyball won't win the Premiership 2012-13

Thanks IK! That must be "convenient"... Just deciding, as a whole profession, to "not do" diaeresis... o_O

if they can just write (for example) schoenberg instead, it's alright

excluding altogether is a bit crap

I guess I hadn't noticed before English media always wrote Van NistelrooY instead of what it really is, Van Nistelrooij. Bizarre.

But maybe as a Dutch guy here I am used to comply to how other nations/languages write their names etc and copy that. When I said to my English gf we were going to "Bretagne" on holiday (instead of "Brittany"), and that we could spend some time in "Par-y" (Paris) she looked at me all disgusted and said I sounded incredibly posh.

The relationship survived this sordid affair though. Back to the fitba.

I guess I hadn't noticed before English media always wrote Van NistelrooY instead of what it really is, Van Nistelrooij. Bizarre.

not just the media. it was on his shirt and i assume he had some say in the matter

I have no idea how the Spanish basketball guy LLULL is supposed to be pronounced - during the Olympics the commentators seemed to have settled for 'Yule'

Nah, he was typically Dutch in that, I am 100% positive. The ManU shirt guy told him "no no, Ruud, we write a 'y' at the end", and he would be a-ok with it. Like all Dutch people. Not saying I condone it, but I understand, because the Dutch always comply to foreign things like this. Which I actually prefer over the English/Muricans saying 'Brittany', 'Par-y' tbh

xp

Not 'Par-y", the british say Paris, is what I meant

A double 'l' in Spanish is a 'j', so that would make sense.

xxp

god we really should have gone all out to sign Fellaini

yeah Fellaini is such a likeable player

It's the second 'Ll' in 'Llull' that gets me though, wtf are you supposed to do with that?

De Gea is keeping us in this

yup. fantastic saves today. fellaini looking the best player on the pitch at the moment.

who is this de gea guy

da guy, eh?

It's the second 'Ll' in 'Llull' that gets me though, wtf are you supposed to do with that?

― Ismael Klata, Monday, August 20, 2012 9:41 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Zjuzj, is how I'd pronounce it. Same rule applies more or less for a double 'l' at the end.

But don't quote me on it, I only had two years of Spanish language at uni and spent most time in the canteen drinking coffee with fellow deadbeats tbh

we don't put 'only' in that sentence over here

Shoot me know iirc

speaking of pronunciation issues, most people seem to be getting Kagawa's name wrong

struggling to think how else to say it tbh

The stress should be on second syllable, right?

apparently not. He said in an interview it's Ka-ga-wa

double 'L' in spanish is more like the 'lli' in 'million', or the 'y' in 'young' - eg. calle = caye, david villa = viya. the 'j'/'zh' sound for a double 'L' is used in argentina - so 'pollo' (chicken) would be pronounced 'pojo'.

that's not helping with that second Ll in Llull though

Kagawa weights his passes beautifully.

woohoo!

deserved. Van Persie time then?

Quite possible, there is no football player I love more than Fellaini

Don't think RVP could do anything here tbh, there's no feeding the box

<3 Fellaini

omg Cleverly, what a chance

Who's the Scottish (sounding) commentator on Sky?

I think it's Davie Provan

I love Kagawa already btw, he's fantastic

he's been the only bright spot

Kagawa looks good enough to play for Everton.

Loving Hibbert tonight too. For some odd reason I have a lot of love for this rather dull game.

I'm not finding it dull at all.

Mm, well I do a bit, it's the beast unable to force a break (ManU) against Everton. Loving Everton though tbh.

ManU isn't trying very hard, it seems. Waiting for them to wake up.

there's no comparison between omitting accents and employing old national terms for places

all of the major languages do the latter...mailand/cologne/parigi/londres etc

After a summer watching MLS I'm learning to appreciate superior effort when the talent might be lacking. Everton working their asses off.

good lads Everton

cracking match that

i really like everton

fellaini is a fucking horrible player

cattermole should do him

he's yaya touré-esque in the same way leon osman is andres iniesta-esque

christ, knew it was going to be tough but that was completely gutless. The rest of the team should apologise to Kagawa

ya i was wondering how much of this love-in could recall how much of a little git fellaini is