Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

yeah milch originally wanted o'neill for al and hbo vetoed, wary of al bundy baggage. also looking forward to ty burrell breaking bad.

As thrilling as the train heist was, it's bits like tonight's dinner scene that really make this show for me.

I'm increasingly convinced that they're actually gonna make it to the finish line without stumbling (i.e. that thing that always happens where an otherwise great show is hobbled by a weak final season(s)).

Also: Skyler hearing about her affair from Marie, the explicit revelation of the probable roots of Walt's ambition, Mike fucking with the DEA... Just an embarrassment of great stuff.

And whoever gave me a line of snark re: my suggestion that Walt might use Todd to get at Mike's guys...seems like Todd has someone on the inside! We'll just have to see where that choice little tidbit leads, now won't we!

great, great episode. the only thing that's bugging me is Mike's kind of completely exposed now. he tries to sell himself as this very expert operator who's so tough that the people who crossed him aren't around any more to say how thoroughly he dealt with them, etc etc, but the actual fact? Mike lets literally everybody off the hook, always. Mike is Mr. Second Chance. Dude like Mike lets Todd live because of Todd's uncle's prison connections? Come on, now.

So that element is farce, but fuckin A, the dinner scene (with probably unintentional echoes of a dinner scene in Taxi, the meetup with the Phoenix meth dudes, Walt's justification & how infuriating it is but how you can get that if you look at it from the right angle...just tremendous.

Yeah, Walt is infuriating at least in part because he's every viewer's tendency to rationalize bullshit thoughts/beliefs/actions taken to its logical extreme.

seriously half-assed job by Mike restraining Walt. u rly think methguyver won't find his way out of that come on man

really wondering what the hell Walt's plan is in the next episode, nothing occurs to me other than killing all the phoenix dudes and taking the money. Maybe selling them fake methylamine?

Ha ha. While he was half-assedly securing Walt to the radiator, I was all like, "Aww, c'mon, Mike! You know he's Dark MacGyver!"

i couldn't stop laughing through the whole dinner scene

I thought the whistle while you work scene was really funny too

why did Walt burn the restraint against his hand and not against the rad?!

the dinner scene was hilarious, jeese talking abt eating scabs then drinking his water like he wanted to disappear into it

great, great episode. the only thing that's bugging me is Mike's kind of completely exposed now. he tries to sell himself as this very expert operator who's so tough that the people who crossed him aren't around any more to say how thoroughly he dealt with them, etc etc, but the actual fact? Mike lets literally everybody off the hook, always. Mike is Mr. Second Chance. Dude like Mike lets Todd live because of Todd's uncle's prison connections? Come on, now.

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mr half measures

btw I disagree w/ jesse about microwaved lasagna cheese, I love when the top layer of cheese gets super crispy and scabby like that, it's like a little cheese chip appetizer.

I thought the whistle while you work scene was really funny too

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or completely creepy!

great, great episode. the only thing that's bugging me is Mike's kind of completely exposed now. he tries to sell himself as this very expert operator who's so tough that the people who crossed him aren't around any more to say how thoroughly he dealt with them, etc etc, but the actual fact? Mike lets literally everybody off the hook, always. Mike is Mr. Second Chance. Dude like Mike lets Todd live because of Todd's uncle's prison connections? Come on, now.

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mr half measures

― lag∞n, Monday, August 20, 2012 1:25 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc thats not why they let him live

point stands, Mike talks boss talk but all you gotta do for Mike to let you off the hook is ask nicely

"that was before Ricky Hitler shot the kid!"

Can someone explain Skyler's anger at Walt for telling Marie about the affair? IIRC Walt was thinking on his feet when pressed by Marie about Skyler's breakdown... Marie was really putting the screws in and it seemed to satisfy her. What was the alternative? I feel like I'm missing something v. obv. here.

Walt made sure that Marie thought the problem with their marriage was Skyler's doing. Skyler is understandably upset when this revelation comes to light, on top of everything else she's shouldering, particularly when pretty much all of the major problems in her life are Walt-derived.

I mean, imagine you were on the verge of a breakdown because your significant other was a shitty person but in a way you could never discuss with anyone. And then your significant other tells someone in your family that you're on the verge of a breakdown because of something shitty you did.

i dont think theres anything ur missing. ideally walt shouldve told skyler he used that to cover for the way she acted in front of hank & marie but obv they arent exactly communicating as calm, rational ppl and shed be pissed abt it regardless prob..

having it come back 2 her from marie, esp @ the pt when shes maybe really abt to confess real shit to her (prob not really but a statement like 'if u only knew, etc, youd never talk 2 me again' is some classic self-involved & martyr-ish shit) is gonna rankle sky to no end

yeah, word

Yeah I don't know if I'm buying that...what else could he have said? Besides, who gives a shit what Marie thinks? Doesn't make sense that Skyler would be worried abt Marie's condemnation. Historically she's shrewder than that, more likely she'd spin it back, "Yeah, I fucked Ted because stress cancer money etc. and anyway Walt can't satisfy me anymore, he has to wear a fedora to get it up...."

Marie's understanding in last night's ep was predicatable. People have affairs.

xpost yeah, Walt should have let Skyler know he told her, he underestimated Marie's nagging/prying

It just seems like in the general scheme of things:

Murder>>Meth Empire>>Massive tax fraud>>new baby>>canver>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fucking Ted

"cancer."

well, i think theres a part of it that shes using it as a chip against walt too, was caught off guard coming home & finding jesse there, plus shes just generally on edge right now & was downing wine

i suspect she doesnt care as much abt marie knowing of the affair

Probably true, yes

he has to wear a fedora to get it up...."

loving this

"Now...we cook." *puts on Heisenberg hat*

when Walt told Marie about the affair i just assumed instantly it was for selfish reasons.
he could have made up any excuse - but he picked the thing that would most make him look like a victim and Skylar the bad guy. and there's no doubt in my mind he wanted to punish her too. not even for the affair but for her behaviour.

Yeah, the crux of the Skyler/Marie scene isn't that she's perturbed about Marie's knowledge of her affair but rather that she's pertubed by the extent to which she's being used as a pawn by someone who's already pervaded and ruined almost every aspect of her life. As if that level of ruination isn't enough, now he's trying to spin the narrative against her and taint her in the one healthy part of her life that's left.

There's an interesting parallel between that scene and the one where Jesse hears Walt whistling. They're both peeks behind the curtain of lies and manipulation, just at different points in spectrum of realization of just how far gone Walt is.

he has to wear a fedora to get it up...."

loving this

― aerosmith suck because their corporate rock that sucks (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, August 20, 2012 10:09 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its a pork pie!

anyway whats walts plan, seems like diluting the methlamine would be the way to go except they already gave them a non watered down sample, the rational thing would just be to work w/the people from phoenix and as part of the deal have them buy jesse n mike out, thats prob what walt is proposing but really hes just gonna kill them, the empire business etc

love the way they're priming the endgame here; i was afraid it was gonna be all slow burn or some Sopranos-y web of paranoia and discomfort but they're making this a legit thriller that still maintains dark comedy and procedural

http://i.imgur.com/GtCs9.jpg

haha what

Oh jeez. I hope that's an actual dream sequence image and not just goofing around on set.

ok i used the google http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2173425/Breaking-Bads-drug-duo-Aaron-Paul-Bryan-Cranston-hold-fake-baby-wearing-meth-suits-Comic-Con.html

its a pork pie!

u kno what they say, a pork pie in the streets, a fedora in the sheets

props to the return on the chekhovian spider in the bottle: danger kept in your pocket and only barely contained

point stands, Mike talks boss talk but all you gotta do for Mike to let you off the hook is ask nicely

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, August 20, 2012 5:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, I say I can't wait to see more Mike putting guns to people's faces, then exhaling and putting it away. Only time so far he's been comfortable pulling the trigger has been on one of his own men!

well it helps the odds if the guy you're pulling on is the star of the show! but your point stands, they've somewhat painted themselves into a corner with Mike as tough guy when he's got such a blind spot and pushover nature when walt is concerned

thats just mikes character i think is the point

its not like the show tried and failed to deliver a badass hitman

At this point, I think Mike would've let Krazy-8s off the hook.

"But wait! I'VE GOT A PLAN."
*Drops gun. Sighs* "mmm-kay?"

he doesnt really want to kill people, can you blame him

if you look back to mikes first big turn his half measures speech its all there, that sort of thinking isnt necessary if youre a cold blooded killer, and keep in mind the whole story was about protecting someone, not something yr everyday sociopath loses too much sleep over

mike maybe wants to be this decisive all business criminal, he certainly wants to project that image, but really he just wants everything to run smoothly and to not be bothered

This might be reaching, slightly, but I would also guess that Mike is generally more aware of the fact that Walt has a family (and therefore more hesitant to take that ultimate step) than Walt is himself, at this point.