Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

It's a very mild disappointment, mind.

Todd didn't get the memo that they're a chemistry teacher/goofy student team with hijinks. He thinks they're actual criminals.

occasional methodical pace and careful attention to detail were among its greatest strengths.

Yes. More recently it's like INGENIOUS IDEA, BAM, executed, next. I'm not sure it would have taken a lot to give us a little more setup w/ this one, though, I mean 5-10 mins. like w/ the junkyard magnet drill. Especially because Walt and Jesse were so smug abt the whole plan w/ Todd, like YEP WE ARE AMAZING

that's when i knew it was all going to go wrong, although I thought they'd end up killing the engineers in some messy way that made things very difficult for them

even when they execute, like with the magnet, it ends up setting them back like 10 steps

Jesse and Walt have the flash and the chops but Todd is gonna be what puts them over the top, their Steve Nash or Richard Starkey, doesn't need the spotlight and ready to fuck somebody up.

that's when i knew it was all going to go wrong, although I thought they'd end up killing the engineers in some messy way that made things very difficult for them

even when they execute, like with the magnet, it ends up setting them back like 10 steps

Magnet worked out great, mike lost all his money and is forced to work for Walt

we'll see how that goes when mike and walt turn on each other and somebody has to kill or pay off those 9 dudes in prison

Jesse loves kids and relates to them. Mike has a soft spot for kids. Walt has no feelings & Todd is an idiot. This event will put Jesse permanently on the other side of everybody, except maybe Mike.

also the 9 guys in prison form a band and it becomes the feel-good story of the yard, they play every day and people dance and get their aggressions out. they are made whole by ~music~

Is Todd really an idiot though? He's got that wide-eyed naif thing going, but W&J were basically walking directly into prison if he didn't tip them re: nanny cam.

Jesse and Walt have the flash and the chops but Todd is gonna be what puts them over the top, their Steve Nash or Richard Starkey, doesn't need the spotlight and ready to fuck somebody up.

Ha, so Todd is the Furio of the gang. Didn't see that one coming, but you may be onto something.

Crushing hard on Todd now, something abt the way he kills children

No, man, Todd is the Waingro of the operation.

good thing hank just picked up heat on blu ray

"Is Todd really an idiot though?"

He's very clearly not an idiot.

You guys are reading a hell of a lot into a character who's so far uttered about three lines. And shot a kid, admittedly.

xp I'm sure they intentionally picked an actor that looks like he just fell off the potato truck, though.

up until the kid-shooting, i thought Todd could have been an undercover.

we'll see how that goes when mike and walt turn on each other and somebody has to kill or pay off those 9 dudes in prison

― Nhex, Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:05 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are they all in prison? There's just nine guys who are broke and pissed, and some of them are in prison, I thought.

several of them are at least -- mike posing as an 'intern' & wanting 2 visit them all in a single day

Things I am increasingly worried the writers will just forget about/not bother with:

- Who Gus actually was and why even Mike can't find any trace of him before he came to America.
- Who if anyone was behind Gus/Madrigal that was so scary/important that the head of a Mexican drug cartel wouldn't kill Gus.
- That thing about Walt standing back and allowing Jesse's girlfriend to die (okay, they will probably cover this one).

― Matt DC, Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:27 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

-probably will come out with the second one
-I'd be shocked if we never meet this dude
-the only resolution to this is Walt confessing, and why do we NEED to see that? He has so many sins to confess, why this one?

You guys are reading a hell of a lot into a character who's so far uttered about three lines. And shot a kid, admittedly.

they cast someone well known and it has that instinctive feel of tv telling you something is important.

esposito dropped some hints that he'll be back in flashback, which makes me think we're going to learn a bit more about the whole gus/madrigal nexus

-the only resolution to this is Walt confessing, and why do we NEED to see that? He has so many sins to confess, why this one?

Because its the one that directly fucked up the life of his partner who he's been manipulating ever since. Because there's been a dramatic tension simmering away there between the two of them ever since that would be weirdly unsatisfying if it to remain unresolved. Because the relationship between the two characters/actors is the best thing about the show. And because it would completely turn Jesse against Walt once and for all and would lead to a confrontation that would make amazing TV.

it didn't fuck up jesse's life at all, it saved his life

hey you know what would turn Jesse against Walt "I poisoned Brock"

todd is well-known?

Todd didn't get the memo that they're a chemistry teacher/goofy student team with hijinks. He thinks they're actual criminals.

― your native bacon (mh), Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:35 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm... also see lydia earlier in the episode... "you don't want to murder two people? i thought you were professionals!?!"

"they cast someone well known and it has that instinctive feel of tv telling you something is important."

What's he well known for? Friday Night Lights?

well known on ILX

and among people who watch AMC shows, prob.

oh thats who it is

Yes Friday Night Lights! also btw this is the second murder that Landry has been directly involved in.

i just don't think they'd be lingering on him as they are and then just kill him off.

maybe jesse will finally stop calling him 'mr white' and this informality will enrage walt to the point where he confesses all.

i'd have said killing gale was a bigger prob for jesse than jane dying.

I'm kind of facepalming at Mike, Walt and Jesse for involving Todd at all. Before shooting the kid he just had this look of someone who's going to fuck them all over somehow. That line of 'Wow you guys have thought of everthing' and Walt & Jesse just grinning like vultures like 'why yes Todd, we have haven't we'... YOU GUYS

xposts yeah.... the novices corralled into working for our antiheroic trio turn out to be way more cold-blooded than they are.. when lydia explains to walt why she put the hit on mike you can see a kind of respect for the logic pass over him

Is there an emoticon with half its face blown off?

here u go

http://s16.postimage.org/dga4qtzy9/zombgus_emoticon.jpg

hey you know what would turn Jesse against Walt "I poisoned Brock"

Yeah that too. But Jesse was pretty emotionally fucked up by his girlfriend dying next to him while he was asleep, regardless of whether it got him off heroin or not.

xpost - yeah killing Gale as well. But one of the things that's basically kept him going other than having a new girlfriend is the sense that Walt has got his back even though that's wrong.

right. hindsight is obv 20/20 but one wld think mike would pull in some trusted young gohard instead of a vamanos pest dude theyve known for a day or w/e and who saul said his name as todd

Lydia is really the best candidate for the Don among those remaining

right. hindsight is obv 20/20 but one wld think mike would pull in some trusted young gohard instead of a vamanos pest dude theyve known for a day or w/e and who saul said his name as todd

this clunkiness is proof enough he'll feature more.

lol @pillbox

The whole episode was pretty clunky (BUT EXCITING) except for the final minute or so which was just awesome.

truck breakdown/train sequence was v exciting

ya, that was not clunky at ALL

Clunky as in not making entirely logical sense. The episode was very well-crafted/acted/written.

oic

It was the opening heist from the movie Heat, you guys. Whoever pointed that out was OTM. It's like the Scarface reference, which people on this thread jumped all over for being too obvious, but don't you get that they're just fucking with us?