Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

skyler was right basically

yeah. amazingly it seems like walt even comes around to, if not exactly agree, not disagree either. that or when she said "i'll be whatever kind of partner you want" all his power pleasure ganglia started firing at once and he couldn't resist going along with it, for the moment at least

brilliant moment keyed off the soundtrack to reveal the kid on the bike; shutting off the generator, there's still an engine on somewhere.. eek

"The point is, no one, other than us, can ever know that this robbery went down. Nobody. Got it?" -Jesse
"Yeah, absolutely." -Todd
"Are you sure?" -Walt
"Yes, sir." -Todd

All this time I thought that Todd was a criminal-in-training when it turns out he was a meth-criminal-in-training who could give criminal-for-real lessons to Walt and Jesse

holy shit the ending of this episode was an INCREDIBLE bonerkill.

jesse screaming "nooooo" kinda echoed in my head, it was awesome

I can buy it. Fear of going to a dark(er) place kicked his higher brain functions into gear. I don't think Jesse would ever admit as much to himself, but he's not stupid.

― Old Lunch, Monday, August 13, 2012 10:17 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was starting to think that maybe jesse is the smartest one, or at least the one with the most 'potential' of the three stooges

Flynn!!

We don't know if the kid is dead, which in many ways sets up an even larger quandary. Regardless, no doubt Jesse will snap (again) and join Skyler in the coalition of the shellshocked, In fact, I wonder if Skyler and Jesse will ever cross paths again.

the teaser for next week made it pretty clear the kid is dead

ya, i didn't need to see the preview to know he was toast.

Won't anyone think of the poor spider?

that was an awesome spider

Jesse saves the spider, trains it to kill, puts it in mikes bathroom at walts behest, whole thing backfires in a stunning toilet based cliffhanger

jesse rescues the spider, it becomes his best friend & he wants to cut spider in on the meth money & walt secretly poisons the spider

With spider poison.
It's not very effective...

with...ricin!

but it backfires & the spider gets all crazy mutant huge & eats walt

Guys, the spider is obviously a reincarnated Gus. We won't see him again until the last episode, when Walt will die and be reincarnated as a fly.

I also thought, no way a moving freight train can see a guy waving at them on the tracks and stop in time to avoid hitting whatever they're waving about.

Freight trains don't always go very fast, especially when it gets curvy (as it did before the crossing). As someone who lived about 30 feet from freight train tracks for about 10 years, I found the scenario plausible.

lets not talk about teasers pls

Wow, this was one of the best episodes of the series, right after the all time worst. Or second worst. I can't remember if it was worse when they did it the first time with the fly or the second time with Skyler. She's definitely more annoying than the annoying fly but neither are as annoying as all of the handwringing ITT re: morality or realism.

oh c'mon there's no way last week was anywhere near as bad as some of the more awkward s1 / early s2 eps.

The pacing of this series is perfect so far. You can't beat a good elaborate train heist episode and it was so much fun after the (necessary) tension overload of last week. Jesse under the train was awesome.

Once again killing or involving children is the moral line. Jesse's going to fucking freak out now. Especially given the kid probably had zero comprehension of what was actually going on and there was no need to do anything.

But yeah, the police are probably more bothered about dead or missing children than they are about random drug dealers being taken down so this will be a level of heat they haven't previously experienced.

"The point is, no one, other than us, can ever know that this robbery went down. Nobody. Got it?" -Jesse
"Yeah, absolutely." -Todd
"Are you sure?" -Walt
"Yes, sir." -Todd

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:47 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah, exactly. i wonder if even walt can sweep this kinda brutally logical execution under the carpet - i mean i'm not saying he'll pack it all in but it does set up psychological repercussions down the line even besides jessie's reaction around him

How many more episodes left before the break, by the way?

8 a half so two more

really not sure i'm into this model tbh

in fact i'm certain i'm not

lydia is a great character btw

like, you know her so well already, that she'd still try and get bug eyed greedy even when she's playing her one card to stay alive

hank reaction to walt breakdown priceless too

i mean... "rodarte-quayle"

biggest laughs

"Emo McGee"

"Burying bodies?"
"...Robbing a train"

Heist music was cool - pretty Reznorish, and very 'flangey'.

Once again killing or involving children is the moral line. Jesse's going to fucking freak out now. Especially given the kid probably had zero comprehension of what was actually going on and there was no need to do anything.

I sort of think they couldn't take the risk.

However Walt's bravado about robbing a train is going to come back to haunt him when there's news stories about the missing kid and Skylar realises.

well, thats if they leave the body under the train tracks which doesnt seem like a great idea

so theyre framing landry as really impressionable & kinda dumb i guess? idk the way he said "you guys thought of everything" struck me sorta suspiciously but given the end it's supposed 2 be legit awe of these high-level(from his perspective) crooks

I was thinking more that he'll be reported missing and someone will know he was last seen near the the train tracks. Maybe a big stretch.

they'll have to kill the tarantula too. It knows too much

Killing the kid was a much more risky move than letting him go. Police sweeps and interviews of everyone in the area are a lot worse than a kid who might think something shady is going on.

It's less a case of whether or not it'll lead back to them and more a case of it (probably) being a big news story and a massive headfuck for all five of them. We've just been shown the group working about as harmoniously together as possible and they're going to be riven with divisions from now. Jesse aside I'm not sure Mike is crazy about the idea of killing children either.

(xpost) tarantula saw everything WITH EIGHT EYES

It's less a case of whether or not it'll lead back to them and more a case of it (probably) being a big news story and a massive headfuck for all five of them. We've just been shown the group working about as harmoniously together as possible and they're going to be riven with divisions from now. Jesse aside I'm not sure Mike is crazy about the idea of killing children either.

yeah this is of course the bigger implication, i'm just curious to see if they find a way for skylar to find out.

idk the way he said "you guys thought of everything" struck me sorta suspiciously

me too, i think there is something going on with him beyond just dumb wannabe.

I wouldn't say dumb wannabe exactly but it's definitely clear that wanted to prove himself. Even in the previous episode where he pointed out the nanny cam in the house

i just feel like he will have some big role to play this season

The clear development (having not seen the teaser - please don't spoil!) is that the spider will get into the meth and then bite Jesse, who will be able to shoot blue crystal out his wrists, thus cutting out the need for Walt. Then, guilt-ridden, Jesse will don a costume and clean up New Mexico of all its drugs and crime.

BTW, my guess with Todd is that he is doomed. Shot a kid, sole witness to a crime (aside from the comedian driving the truck, but he's no loose canon). Walt doesn't like to share spoils.

Also, some discussions were confused as to why it was Walt who met with Lydia. Clearly that was to get a long-game line on MIke, who Walt is no doubt planning to kill, for myriad reasons.

"Why did you put the hit on Mike?" The wheels are spinning...

i think todd may be being established as a more formidable character than we thought, i may be wrong on this, he might be a dummy with a hair trigger, but he seemed to ~know what he was doing~

How is Skylar going to find out? How are they going to connect the missing kid to the train robbery? Also kids go missing all the time (esp. ones riding dirt bikes in the desert, I imagine) I don't see any reason for this to be big enough news that they hear about it in Albuquerque.

i would think that mike's magic crime guy skills will be enough to ensure that people besides the four of them knowing won't be an issue.

Nah Todd is canon fodder I reckon. I like the dude who was upfront talking to the train guys though.

How are they going to connect the missing kid to the train robbery? Also kids go missing all the time (esp. ones riding dirt bikes in the desert, I imagine)

if anyone knew he was in the desert it might not be impossible.

i think todd may be being established as a more formidable character than we thought

this is my gut feeling too.

there shouldn't be any connection to the robbery though because the whole point is no one is supposed to notice it happened

"if anyone knew he was in the desert it might not be impossible."

This is presuming that they connect the desert to the train though. There is a lot of desert out there.

And yeah what robbery, etc.

I think we'll have a better idea of Todd's fate once we see everyone's reactions next ep somehow. But yeah I agree that he seems to be set up as more than just a dopey B&E guy.