Stroszek is my vote. Because of the totally bizarre (but not in the context of the movie) chicken/music/ski-lift thing at the end, which I think sums up Herzog maybe better than his big epic movies. There's only one director who would would dare or even bother to make a movie with this clearly unstable person. Herzog is a little nuts, and attracted to like, and his sweet and tender relationship with Bruno S. is more revealing than his violent relationship with Kinski. At least, I prefer it. And it's a great movie.
― kenan, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link
best herzog performance = julien donkey boy
so true! also i have no idea how to vote. i might go for one i havent seen.
― jhøshea, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link
which is most of them
― jhøshea, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link
i voted bells from the deep - that had a nice ring to it.
― jhøshea, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link
what have you seen?
― kenan, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Aguirre, The Wrath Of God Cobra Verde Even Dwarfs Started Small Fitzcarraldo God's Angry Man Little Dieter Needs To Fly My Best Fiend Nosferatu The Great Ecstasy Of Woodcarver Steiner The White Diamond The Wild Blue Yonder Wheel Of Time Where The Green Ants Dream
and grzly man
― jhøshea, Friday, 25 May 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link
no surprises here.
― Jeff, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Well someone voted for "The Unprecedented Defence Of The Fortress Deutschkreuz" - I call that a surprise!
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.roguefilmschool.com/
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The Rogue Film School will be in the form of weekend seminars held by Werner Herzog in person at varying locations and at infrequent intervals.#
The number of participants will be limited.#
Locations and dates will be announced on this website and Werner Herzog's website: www.wernerherzog.com approximately 12 weeks in advance.#
The Rogue Film School will not teach anything technical related to film-making. For this purpose, please enroll at your local film school.#
The Rogue Film School is about a way of life. It is about a climate, the excitement that makes film possible. It will be about poetry, films, music, images, literature.#
The focus of the seminars will be a dialogue with Werner Herzog, in which the participants will have their voice with their projects, their questions, their aspirations.#
Excerpts of films will be discussed, which could include your submitted films; they may be shown and discussed as well. Depending on the materials, the attention will revolve around essential questions: how does music function in film? How do you narrate a story? (This will certainly depart from the brainless teachings of three-act-screenplays). How do you sensitize an audience? How is space created and understood by an audience? How do you produce and edit a film? How do you create illumination and an ecstasy of truth?#
Related, but more practical subjects, will be the art of lockpicking. Traveling on foot. The exhilaration of being shot at unsuccessfully. The athletic side of filmmaking. The creation of your own shooting permits. The neutralization of bureaucracy. Guerrilla tactics. Self reliance.#
Censorship will be enforced. There will be no talk of shamans, of yoga classes, nutritional values, herbal teas, discovering your Boundaries, and Inner Growth.#
Related, but more reflective, will be a reading list: if possible, read Virgil's "Georgics", read "Hemingway's "The short happy life of Francis Macomber", The Poetic Edda, translated by Lee M. Hollander (in particular the Prophecy of the Seeress), Bernal Diaz del Castillo "True History of the Conquest of New Spain".#
Follow your vision. Form secretive Rogue Cells everywhere. At the same time, be not afraid of solitude.
― deus ex lawnmower (latebloomer), Friday, 25 September 2009 10:27 (fourteen years ago) link
"The Rogue Film School is not for the faint-hearted," said the film-maker. "It is for those who have travelled on foot, who have worked as bouncers in sex clubs or as wardens in a lunatic asylum, for those who are willing to learn about lock-picking or forging shooting permits in countries not favouring their projects."
― MPx4A, Friday, 25 September 2009 10:34 (fourteen years ago) link
There will be no talk of shamans, of yoga classes, nutritional values, herbal teas, discovering your Boundaries, and Inner Growth.
Lol - isn't he making a film with Lynch at the moment? I guess they got on each others nerves.
― dowd, Friday, 25 September 2009 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link
nah i think he just wants the seminars to get the point. ya know,like lockpicking.
― deus ex lawnmower (latebloomer), Friday, 25 September 2009 10:38 (fourteen years ago) link
great dbl bill at the Ritzy tomorrow, btw - wanted to see Fata Morgana for a while
http://www.v22collection.com/herzog/26.html
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 October 2009 11:15 (fourteen years ago) link
i watches stroszek last night. really good. the heist scene followed by the grocery shopping is hysterical.
― jed_, Saturday, 24 October 2009 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link
watched
STROZEK
― FACK, Saturday, 24 October 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link
it's his best (and most lynch-y) film,imo
― Zeno, Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
strozek just combines such wierd elements together, and somehow it works, but i also love fitzcarraldo and aguirre
― FACK, Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I love this scene in Fitz:
http://www.konradprojects.net/blog/uploaded_images/Fitzcarraldo2-711143.jpg
― Jeff, Sunday, 25 October 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
what i liked about srozek the most, is that it deals with social problems of the present - one might call it the Herzog version of social realism.it's a very special film in his filmography.it is also funny and presents Bruno S at it's best. as oppose to Aguirre/fitzcaraldo/kasper which are historical,colder,less emotional movies (though still great).
― Zeno, Sunday, 25 October 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link
this should have a run-off poll!
― The Viceroy (Viceroy), Sunday, 25 October 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link
strozek is def. a very special film. I've never seen anything like it. the sad/funny ratio is really well done.
my dad told me that he watched strozek and just started it over w/herzog commentary on right after it finished. awesome!
(commentary is hilarious, of course)
― original bgm, Sunday, 25 October 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Rewatched The White Diamond last weekend, just lovely; maybe my favorite thimg he's done since Aguirre.
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Overrated
Summer Hours is better
;)
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
The next Rogue Film School will take place on the East Coast in spring 2010. Stay tuned!!
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
explain why I should not apply
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I love the scene in TWD where Herzog is telling Dorrington why not having him w/ camera on the first airship flight is "a stupid stupidity."
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
whenev I try to imitate him it comes out like Arnold, but how great would WH be as CA governor?
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
<3 x 1000000000000000
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
watched Stroszek yesterday (Superbowl? what's that?) - what a goofy little movie. scene w/premature baby = disturbing.
― mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
it's his best movie imo.works like a twisted combination between humanistic social realism and david lynch surrealism
― Zeno, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcoqeNdMAfA
― am0n, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't remember any premature baby and i just rewatched it a couple months ago
― harbl, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
oh wait yeah i do
― harbl, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Stroszek himeslf kinnda premature baby ..
― Zeno, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
it was overshadowed in my memory by the fart-lighting scene
― harbl, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
what the hell 'even dwarfs started small' is on youtube in its entirety
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrV36ffFWw
― am0n, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
lmao @ camel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uFDSQ_Ius
― am0n, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah def some precursors to Lynch (and Jarmusch?) - strikes a great tone between pathos and comedy. Bruno S is alternately pitiable and hilarious... the final sequence with the robbery (of a barbershop?) and then grocery shopping and ski-lift. And the car spinning around on auto was like a quote from Even Dwarfs Started Small, no?
― mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
btw that youtube channel also has My Best Fiend, Aguirre, Woyzeck,and The Enigma Of Kaspar Hauser
― am0n, Monday, 8 February 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Stroszek is amazing. Need to see The White Diamond, Nosferatu and Hauser ASAP.
― Simon H., Monday, 8 February 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
another WTF scene - nephew pulling out one of his teeth in autoshop
― mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Stroszek is prob my favourite WH movie too. That or Aguirre. I love the auction scene and the all scenes with the man from the bank. And of course the ski-lift/car/chicken scene.
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Storszek is definetely my favourite Herzog movie. Obv. final scenes are incredible but i really like the scene near the start where Bruno is playing the accordion to a bunch of kids in the street, funny and touching and v. human.
― toastmodernist, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link
My library just got Cobra Verde and the Kinski-Herzog documentary. Which should I watch first?
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 July 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
#2
― iatee, Monday, 19 July 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks!
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 July 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
don't miss cobra verde, though
― elan, Monday, 19 July 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
White Diamond wasn't his best but it was definitely very enjoyable.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Monday, 19 July 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone seen Cave of Forgotten Dreams? I thought it was kinda cool in a "if I saw this in geography/biology/whatever class this would be awesome" way, but it's not up to snuff compared to some of his other docs, I thought. Maybe it was better in 3D, but I found the staring at the paintings, as awesome as they are, to get a little wearing after a while. I guess there's only so much painting to be shown and you gotta fill up the 2 hrs somehow.
― Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
He basically says the same thing in Burden of Dreams, which reappeared in My Best Fiend. For me at least the later documentary def was a step at making him a character.
― dan selzer, Friday, 2 February 2024 02:53 (four months ago) link
Encounters At The End Of The World was his next doc after Grizzly Man and it gave us this classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWH_9VRWn8Y
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 February 2024 05:07 (four months ago) link
That gets some attention in the documentary. What they really toss off is everything between Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo. All you get from Stroszek is two stills without commentary.
― clemenza, Friday, 2 February 2024 18:07 (four months ago) link
That’s his best stretch! No one gives Heart of Glass any love, even less for Woyzeck. Herzog’s humanism gets overlooked for all the “LOL wacky they’re midgets” and “Kinski go off king” and the “Herzog Plays Herzog” of the last couple decades.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:18 (four months ago) link
And the 70s documentaries might as well not exist. Land of Silence and Darkness is so great.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:20 (four months ago) link
Land of Silence and Darkness and Fata Morgana in the same damned year!
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:22 (four months ago) link
an acquaintance of mine part of a herzog film once and he said he is actually just the best guy, and a very inspiring person to work for.
― omar little, Friday, 2 February 2024 19:26 (four months ago) link
I quite liked The Twilight World when I read it the other week.
― JoeStork, Friday, 2 February 2024 19:48 (four months ago) link
I recently watched Herzog's film about Gertrude Bell, starring Nicole Kidman and James Franco. If there is ever an updated poll that includes Herzog's films since 2007 I will definitely not vote for Queen of the Desert. It's bad.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:04 (four months ago) link
His movies with Bruno are absolutely some of my favorites. I adore that guy and could watch him forever.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:46 (four months ago) link
Haven’t seen the queen of the Desert one yet, I have an unopened blu-ray
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:46 (four months ago) link
The Queen of the Desert has nice location shots, lighting, costumes - all the things that an experienced professional crew can bring to a film. It treats arabs as worthy human beings rather than cartoons, which is good. But the script leans hard into schmaltzy romance and the dialogue isn't much better than your basic Hallmark Channel soap opera. iow, it's bad, but sort of tolerable for the travelogue elements.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:27 (four months ago) link
I am going to anticipate the HELL out of Werner Herzog's "Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans"
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 3 February 2024 00:34 (four months ago) link
otm
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:09 (four months ago) link