question that came to mind for me - when walt is giving his big emotional speech by the pool, how sincere is he? how much do we still have a walt who can construct a story where he's just the selfless family man, and how much has he gone beyond that such that his entire family life is a fabrication that's a distant second to his life as a meth kingpin?
― (500) Days of Sodom (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)
i think he's totally sincere! he really thinks he can have a normal ol' life with his family, give or take a musclecar or two
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)
I think he's sincere in his reminiscences when he's talking by the pool. But I don't think it was ever about him being a self-less family man really (except in some tiny delusional way at the beginning). It was always much more about Walt than it was about anyone else.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)
being a family man is central to his self image and rationale for criminality, it is all of course total bullshit, but walt believes it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)
he also loves the theater of telling a constructed monologue; he loves pretending to be the earnest, kind Walt that he once was.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)
that's what he gets off on; that he can hide the truth so well. and that's what I think sickens Skylar so much in that scene.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)
she loved that man who had cancer; and wanting the cancer to come back isn't just wanting him to die - it's like she's hoping it'll bring back the old Walt? maybe?
babbling now sorry
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)
yeah it's not that she wants him to die specifically, it's that she wants him to become incapacitated so he's no longer a professional criminal.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)
i think she wants him to die
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)
he is after all a horrible monster whos repeatedly humiliated her and put her childrens life at risk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)
yeah I guess he's shown he can get things done while dying of cancer, so maybe that is what she wants
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
oh she definitely wants him to die. and/or be humbled.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)
of course what's so great about this is that Walt WAS concerned about her safety and that of the kids and was going to spend 500k+ to get them all out of 'Querque, but she spent it on Ted.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)
the remorseless enmity of the walt/sky argument was breathtaking, all the wild imaginings of how they would fuck each other over, how they would hurt themselves in order to hurt the other moreI think the most brutal aspect of this exchange is that, despite the fact that (to the best of my recollection) neither party had previously voiced their enmity towards the other, neither Walt nor Skylar seemed particularly taken aback by depth of the other's resentment
I think the most brutal aspect of this exchange is that, despite the fact that (to the best of my recollection) neither party had previously voiced their enmity towards the other, neither Walt nor Skylar seemed particularly taken aback by depth of the other's resentment
These otm
― kinder, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)
walt def cares, hes just incredibly ignorant deluded and ill intentioned
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
who's running the car wash?
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)
xpost lagoon otm
he really doesn't see that his role as a caring husband/provider is directly contradicted by his life as a meth cook, maybe because he has them so compartmentalized in his mind
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)
manchester new hampshire to Houston: 32 hrs
manchester to Albuquerque: 37 hrs
Walt estimated travel time: "about 30 hrs"
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)
yeah this is so otm
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)
he definitely loves the theater - i do wonder if he was ever earnest, though. even in the pilot episode, he's seething with discontent and bitterness
― Nhex, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)
have you ever met an actor?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 00:10 (thirteen years ago)
I'm glad the show is giving Walt free rein to indulge his narcissistic injury and become the powerful gangster he's always wanted to be perceived as, if only to finally shoot a nail gun into the head of his marriage. (Surprised it's taken Sky this long to get to this point.) The most horrific thing about this ep for me isn't the conversation between them, it's the way he was studiously ignoring every sign of her distress, he's completely fine with her being distraught as long as she didn't complain or affect his plans.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)
And I'm sure being given Steve McQueen's watch isn't helping his relentless grandiosity ... but we know from the opening flash-forward of the season there is going to be hell to pay
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)
xxp HEYO!
― Nhex, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:24 (thirteen years ago)
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:47 PM (Yesterday)
holly obv
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)
I thought Marie was working in the car wash as well?
Walt's convinced that Skylar will come round to him and he's basing this largely on his relationship with Jesse and conveniently forgetting that his improved relationship with Jesse is 100% built on lies, deception and emotional manipulation.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think they want the perpetually interfering wife of their friendly local DEA agent working at their money laundering operation
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 10:24 (thirteen years ago)
imo he knows well his relationship with jesse is based on lies - and he fully intends to do similar deeds to get sky back on board. he now sees himself as this arch manipulator as well as everything else.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 10:28 (thirteen years ago)
Interesting to think back and try to pinpoint the exact moment when Walt crossed the line.
― calstars, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)
surviving the events of the end of s4 has definitely tipped him into some new madness.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 10:40 (thirteen years ago)
First episode?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)
over the last couple of days I've rewatched the first season with a friend watching for the first time ("it's maybe worrying how many of Walt's actions I find reasonable", yes, WE'LL SEE) and it's interesting to see that quietly seething side to him that we have less now - he has that boring family man thing that does seem pretty genuine to me, but there's also the discontentment and bitterness that he's clearly struggling to keep beneath the surface, and not always succeeding. Now I guess he thinks he has his various drives in perfect functional harmony, able to switch between masks when necessary, tho of course we all see that he's just a rite madman.
― (500) Days of Sodom (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)
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RIP WALTER WHITE (1958-2009)
― pplains, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)
http://mimg.ugo.com/201012/7/6/3/134367/cuts/breaking-bad-jane_528x297.jpg
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)
hes crossed a lot of lines
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)
he killed a couple dudes in the pilot
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.savewalterwhite.com/img/walter_6.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)
He was always over the line, he just needed something to make him go there.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)
Did anyone see VG on Conan last night? Was that scene they showed from 504? I don't recall it.
NOT SPOILERS (general comments on 505 and 507) BUT JUST TO BE SAFE YOU ARE WARNED******************
From the BB Insider Podcast:VG: 5 and 7 are going to be big
Specifically regarding 505:
VG: biggest caper yet
Rian Johnson: Its going to be HUUUUUGE
Gah!
― 47 minutes, 7 seconds and 4 frames (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)
looks like we're gonna need a bigger magnet
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)
lols
― 47 minutes, 7 seconds and 4 frames (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)
pretty sure i just saw badger in an old episode of gilmore girls
which one??
― rayuela
season 2 or 3, the thanksgiving ep, he's one of jackson's redneck cousins
― just1n3, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)
When Hank was all "Pool party!" I realized how much I've been missing the pre-minerals Hank, the guy who will try to bro up any hugely awkward moment to keep things light.
― Lie Bot (fireland), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)
thanks just1n3!
― rayuela, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgD6cqymgmY
― balls, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)
yeah 'pool party' was awesome
― 47 minutes, 7 seconds and 4 frames (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)
TODD
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:03 (thirteen years ago)
f'kin todd
― johnny crunch, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:03 (thirteen years ago)
Landry strikes again! Dang.
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Monday, 13 August 2012 03:05 (thirteen years ago)
fuckin TODD
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 13 August 2012 03:07 (thirteen years ago)