Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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not sure that walt really believes hes safe now, but he def doesnt think skylar has any right to question him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)

the remorseless enmity of the walt/sky argument was breathtaking, all the wild imaginings of how they would fuck each other over, how they would hurt themselves in order to hurt the other more, DARK FUCKING SHIT.. it sounded like something from a noir movie

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Basically hoping that your husband gets cancer and dies as soon as possible and chain-smoking to make it happen is about as dark as it gets.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

when Skylar said she was waiting, I was expecting her to say 'for you to get shot' so when she said 'for your cancer to come back' I was like whooaaaa

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

Hasn't everyone been assuming Hank's partner has been on the take since like day one?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, August 7, 2012

agree

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

- I've never really held with the drug mole in the DEA theory but Hank being promoted above the Fring investigation just as he was on the right track seemed... suspicious in its timing.

also that Mike knew at all about the DEA visit, timing aside - she's several states away*, and he doesn't appear to have another connection at the building

*yeah? lol US geography

ʘ (sic), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

the guy in the warehouse couldve just called mike, he only knew as they were arriving at her office

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

also if he had a connection at the dea he could verified the validity of the gps device

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Warehouse Guy seemed just as surprised to see DEA agents as Lydia.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

...thats what he wants u to think

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

btw lydia is an awesome character

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

xp great casting just for that dude's facial reactions

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Lydia's okay, but I hope BlueMeth 3.0 doesn't fall thanks to some crazy harebrained female who can't wear her shoes right.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

fkn chicks ruin everything

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

lydia isnt the weak link, as always its walt

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

where does Lydia work again, what state? weird echo of Jesse saying "14 hours drive, if i don't stop" and Walt saying the same thing in the opening of ep 1

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

oooh, good catch.

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

this show is doing something interesting narratively in that the usual dramatic tension/resolution is for the "bad thing" that upsets equilibrium and stokes the conflict must somehow be expunged, excluded by the community of the drama in order for a resolution to be brought about

and all along, even though walt's an anti-hero, the way i've been thinking at least is - how is walt gonna get out of this? how can he expunge the bad thing, i.e. the cousins, the threats to his security, gus, etc? and in this ep it becomes clear that the protagonist himself is the bad thing that must be expunged

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

Walt was coming from New Hampshire right? Def more than a 14-hour drive. Lydia maybe in Houston or LA?

xp

Ari (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

xpost yeah tracer otm

Walt's working on a whole ton of false assumptions about the people close to him - he's fucked over so many people in so many obvious ways, and he's created so many false narratives about what they mean to him or how much they need him and when the reality hits him it's going to be awesome

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Lydia is in Houston, working for the U.S. branch of Madrigal, Intl.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

weirdly it's this episode that had me seeing walt as truly evil in a bigger way than before. obviously the things he has done to date have been reprehensible, but this new confidence and righteousness and calculation is something different. he is so fiendishly manipulative and creepy now.

amazing show... it really is a brilliantly tight weave of character and situation. no show i've ever watched has such perfect pace to each episode.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

the remorseless enmity of the walt/sky argument was breathtaking, all the wild imaginings of how they would fuck each other over, how they would hurt themselves in order to hurt the other more

I think the most brutal aspect of this exchange is that, despite the fact that (to the best of my recollection) neither party had previously voiced their enmity towards the other, neither Walt nor Skylar seemed particularly taken aback by depth of the other's resentment. The resentment had emanated so clearly from their respective disposition toward and treatment of one another that they never even had to verbalize it, and even if they wouldn't allow themselves to cosciously acknowledge it before, neither of them is particularly surprised to learn that the other has come to despise them. Which just mirrors the dissolution of so many relationships, writ super effing large.

Old Lunch, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

That throwaway "well, we've got to make up that $600-thousand somehow" line was a nice passive-aggressive shot across the bow.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)

good observations everyone

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

"they're watching ra-ta-touille... it's very sweet."

WE HAVE TO COOK.

(500) Days of Sodom (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

that's the thing that really gets me about this show - Walt and Marie make the same banal small talk as members of my normal, boring family.

sarahell, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

whenever I saw an RV I thought of breaking bad...now whenever I see a tented house I'm going to think of Breaking Bad

goddamn this show

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

next time i see a tented house im gonna go in there and COOK

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

Which just mirrors the dissolution of so many relationships, writ super effing large.

yeah..... ditto the familiar vibe of walt the next morning pretending that er, nothing has happened! nothing to see here!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

I liked the shot where Walt, Hank, and Marie are chatting and Skyler is staring into the pool, back to the camera. It felt very theatrical in its blocking, in a good way.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

ya that was a v illustrative composition

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)

also how long she was just standing there and youre going fuck whats she gonna do shes not really going into the pool is she, it was tense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

blue as pacifying and lucrative and serenely narcotic and suicidal has been an ongoing choice for this show, best usage this ep.
blue is good

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

i was tense

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

I have never seen a tented house. Even when Dale on King of the Hill did this, I always thought it was one of those things you see in movies that doesn't happen in real life.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

I remember an episode of Macmillan and Wife where they were trapped in a tented house being fumigated.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

pp what happened to u inside the tented house

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

I see them occasionally. The house across the street just had their done last week. We get a lot of termites round here though

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

it happens. in cities, much rarer because you'd have to evacuate an entire building. one family houses, it's a more cost effective and toxic answer. my guess is that it may even be illegal in more metropolitan areas.

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

question that came to mind for me - when walt is giving his big emotional speech by the pool, how sincere is he? how much do we still have a walt who can construct a story where he's just the selfless family man, and how much has he gone beyond that such that his entire family life is a fabrication that's a distant second to his life as a meth kingpin?

(500) Days of Sodom (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

i think he's totally sincere! he really thinks he can have a normal ol' life with his family, give or take a musclecar or two

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

I think he's sincere in his reminiscences when he's talking by the pool. But I don't think it was ever about him being a self-less family man really (except in some tiny delusional way at the beginning). It was always much more about Walt than it was about anyone else.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

being a family man is central to his self image and rationale for criminality, it is all of course total bullshit, but walt believes it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

he also loves the theater of telling a constructed monologue; he loves pretending to be the earnest, kind Walt that he once was.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

that's what he gets off on; that he can hide the truth so well. and that's what I think sickens Skylar so much in that scene.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

she loved that man who had cancer; and wanting the cancer to come back isn't just wanting him to die - it's like she's hoping it'll bring back the old Walt? maybe?

babbling now sorry

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's not that she wants him to die specifically, it's that she wants him to become incapacitated so he's no longer a professional criminal.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

i think she wants him to die

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

he is after all a horrible monster whos repeatedly humiliated her and put her childrens life at risk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)


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