― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 6 November 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)
i also thought the atlanta stuff was somewhat odd, especially the borat appropriating hip-hop slang thing, which was an obvious gag that felt beneath the clueless bumbling/darkest reveals shtick that made us pay attention to borat in the first place. i was also struck by how diligently cohen avoided bringing anything of race into the film (this depending on whether you view jewishness as a race or religion), especially in the frat boy scene. there was definitely some ugly shit left on the avid there.
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)
You were at the wrong screening then. (Our audience pretty much was roffling stop to start.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)
Cut/full versions of scenes. (Seeing how much was done with the editing will be a treat.)
Various press appearances for the film in character, including the Kazakh embassy crashing and showing up at the White House
Commentary track...in character. (If not that, then Baron-Cohen, Roach and Charles all sitting around bullshitting is fine too.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)
I also don't see this as a 'paler' version of the TV show, the disappointment i felt was only in how much it was LIKE the tv show - still felt like the plot was very well integrated.
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 6 November 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)
she was in on it eventually, but whatever, imagine you're turning tricks one night in downtown atlanta and you get this call...
by the smile on her face in the final scene i'm naively assuming that they (SBC/producers) got her in touch with a life-changing sum of money...
i laughed. the running chicken gag. the wrestling scene. the wedding sack. oh dear.
― beeble (beeble), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)
― something less threatening (heywood), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)
I assume each and every one of these people must've given their consent to appear in the film, right? How on earth did they agree to that? Did the producers make them sign some agreement beforehand?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 06:04 (nineteen years ago)
i thought it was interesting that he treats all women like prostitutes except for the hooker who he gets all sweet and romantic on.
you can sign release after the event.
― beeble (beeble), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)
― 31g (31g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.slate.com/id/2151865/
― 31g (31g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15175836/site/newsweek/page/2/
― 31g (31g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)
Yeah, but he really doesn't try to fish out the racism in people like he does with antisemitism. He never asks the southerners about black people (not even in the civil war antique store), and when the frat boys talk about "minorities running this country", he stays uncharacteristically silent. I mean, if he really wanted to expose American bigotry, you'd think racism was a more obvious target than antisemitism?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)
It did concern me that there were a lot of kids (10-15 yrs) at the screening I was at. Not necessarily because of the nudity or racy-ness of it all, but because of a feeling that they were misinterpretting .
I thought that the film was about backwardness (ie. apart from it being something to laugh at). Backwardness of some Central Asians, and of some Americans. The director could have found such backwardness in almost any country, but it does seem to have more of a point being filmed in the country which is the "leader of the free world". The backwardness in the USandA is less forgiveable then that of central Asia or eastern Europe.
I presume that a better (funnier?) Borat film will never be seen as I assume that many great scenes were probably excluded because of legal concerns.
― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)
This is the same as Mark Kermode's. I never trust him when it comes to comedies.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)
Hopefully, y'all understand that I'm not saying that this is my formula for a GREAT comedy. Its just that I've seen so many so-called comedies where a smile wasn't even cracked, so 4 oud-loud laughs is pretty good. Borat... had much more than 4.
― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)
I though Sacha was married to a nice Jewish girl, kinda disappointed to hear he's engaged to an actress (from Wedding Crashers!) now.
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)
the gypsy bit was weirdly hilarious, and very clever, the way he acts like you have to be authoritative but also cautious with gypsies, like "I am going to look through your treasures, gypsy. IS THIS OK?"
I have to say while I can see the point of the film exposing backward views or whatever, a lot of the impact seems to be in the fact that it makes racist or anti-semitic jokes, these jokes are powerful because they are seldom allowed to be made.
Once the setting has been made "ok" for people, then you get this raucous outpouring of laughter. Some of the "FUNNIEST MOVIE EVER" type reviews kind of make me feel this a bit more intensely, like people are laughing with the relief of being able to laugh at stuff that would normally be taboo.
I suppose you hope people think about how anti-semitic, sexist etc Borat is, I mean he's obviously a cartoon character, but I'm not sure that people ponder the fact that they just laughed at anti-semitism, maybe it doesn't matter.
I guess Borat brings out the worst in some of the Americans he speaks to, but then perhaps the film also exposes European attitudes towards Eastern Europeans...
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)
Borat (about black servant): "Is he your slave?"
Country Club Guy: "Oh no, we don't have slaves in America now. A law was passed years ago that we cannot use them for slavery. . . . which is good for them."
Borat: "Ah yes, but not so good for YOU!"
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)
this is pretty otm, especially for the showing i saw (semi-rural, reddest state ever)
― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)
I haven't read a less than four-star review of it yet. And the majority were fives. -- chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (joe.goode...)
Just so yr not missing this:
http://www.nypress.com/19/44/film/ArmondWhite.cfm
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)
Mahir is suing.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Chesty Joe Morgan (Chesty Joe Morgan), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:51 (nineteen years ago)
Maybe this is because HE IS JEWISH.
― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)
― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)
jesus christ save us from this moronic bullshit
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)
i shall lead the way
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― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)
I mean, c'mon!!....Its intent was to be funny AND IT WAS! How many "comedies" achieve that???
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)
― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)
http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,1931712,00.html
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)