Even by Walt's standards he's being pretty fucking complacent about his wife cracking up.
Weird that at this stage Walt's the liability and Jesse seems to be the level-headed one.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 09:29 (thirteen years ago)
xp I think also being responsible for Ted being in traction is maybe kinda messing her up too.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)
loved the apple chomp of victory
i was meaning to ask even before this ep though, does everyone fully buy skyler's wigging out to this extent cos i don't really
like yes she is naive but not that she couldnt have forseen something like that happening, maybe not walt actually doing it but the eventuality of it. and given she's been shown to secretly love the power would she really have this much regard for loss of life if it's that of a drug kingpin who was out to kill her family?
not saying walt hasnt been gross since then but i do feel for him somewhat
― r|t|c, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:17 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i buy that the cumulative effect of all this trauma would be to drive her off the rails
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:54 (thirteen years ago)
i mean it's driven walt off the rails in a different way
True. What kind of crazy person watches Scarface with an infant?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:58 (thirteen years ago)
xxp, yeah, he was Takeshi Kaga'ing the hell up, it was nice
re: Skyler - I think up until recently she's been able to convince herself that as with Walt's original justification, they were being practical about their larceny, but blowing up a nursing home + the Ted thing was just waaaaaay too far for her, i could see moving from abstract money laundering to crippling her ex-lover and murder would push her over the edge
― Nhex, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)
seeing an ex-lover crippled and terrified because of something u did is p fucked up
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)
after the first couple times tho its not so bad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)
Hilariously that's basically what Walt tells her.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:09 (thirteen years ago)
I buy Skyler's wigging out because she's wigging out about Walt being a murdering, creepy, "I forgive you," let me paw at you in bed while you're clearly not interested in even talking to me, terrifying person to be married to. Oh who just moves back in. Basically Skyler is terrified of Walt and powerless to escape him.
― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)
a big part of it is guilt at her willing involvement in this whole sordid mess
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)
i feel like they're setting it up for something 2 have her wigging out 2 this extent. im w/ r|t|c, i think they have her too shell shocked & not even able to function anymore idk
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)
walt's cover story to marie in this was super classic A+ assholery, too
― Nhex, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)
skyler could flip is what im thinking
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)
turn states
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)
rat walt out
She'd have to be very sure that she'd be able to do that without turning herself in and leaving Walter Jr heartbroken and baby Holly without a mother though. Wouldn't bet against her taking both kids and as much money as possible and running though.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)
shed just make a deal, get no time
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:58 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think prison time is her biggest concern.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)
did someone say it was
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)
― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:45 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is how i see it too
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)
Incidentally has Brock seen or encountered Walt before? The kid looked pretty fucking suspicious and nervous when Walt was alone with him, but we were never shown the actual poisoning scene so I dunno.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)
I thought in the premiere it was laid out that Saul had it carried out via proxy (which is a HUGE loose end that's probably gonna come out badly). Brock has probably seen Walt one of the various times he's been at Jesse's house, since they were basically living there since about halfway through S4?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:43 (thirteen years ago)
what saul did was get the ricin cigarette from jesse, don't think he had anything to do with brock
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)
Seemed like Walt and Andrea were being introduced for the first time.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)
I thought the only time they got exposed to walt was when he showed up on their doorstep last season when jesse was freezing walt out and was shutting the door in his face
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)
oh yeah, you guys are right
― Nhex, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)
did someone say it was --lag∞n
Actually yeah in the post right above yours.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)
not really
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
It's not her biggest concern, relative to being terrifed of the sociopath and murderer she's married to, but it's hardly a trifling concern either.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)
Also Marie is clearly about to go back and tell Hank that Skylar is having a mental breakdown. If Skylar were to go to him and say "Walt is running a massive meth operation" he just flat out wouldn't believe her and would piss himself laughing. For an episode or two at least.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)
As lag∞n pointed out though, esp. if she was the one turning Walt in, it's hard to imagine her going to jail. I think her biggest concerns are psychological and financial (if she turns Walt in all their assets are likely to be seized.)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)
She doesn't necessarily know she wouldn't go to jail. So yeah it's psychological.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:25 (thirteen years ago)
Also y'know she's scared shitless of him.
And by psychological I mean that she's having difficulty wrapping her head around the idea that her husband and the father of her children is the murderous head of criminal enterprise which she is now completely dependent upon financially.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)
I'm not so sure she's scared of him as much as she is repelled by him (and by extension herself).
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
I think Skyler is sharp enough to figure out how not to go to jail over this.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)
also if she turned walt in she would be humiliated and her life/marriage exposed as being completely debased
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)
but she looks like she may be nearing the point where itd be worth it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah definitely looks like that, don't it.
Really curious how exactly Walt poisoned Brock now.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)
The only person who can really help her out is Saul, and he looks like he's reaching that point himself.
Also lol @ Mike and Hywel yesterday.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)
ha yes
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)
what if she wants to turn state's evs and walt finds out and decides he has to kill her, how fucked would that be
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)
This remains the show's most aggravatingly-unanswered plot point in recent memory. It kinda prevented the end of last season (awesome as it was) from hanging together for me, if only because it seemed a little logistically sketchy in a show where the details are usually meticulously laid out. Hopefully, it'll eventually be addressed.
― Old Lunch, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)
I watched S2E1 last night. It was fun to watch Walt make ricin, knowing what we know now.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:13 (thirteen years ago)
i realized i had been w/o really thinking abt it imagining walt in disguise offering brock candy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)
How much you wanna bet it turns out that the Heisenberg hat has magical mind-clouding abilities
― mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)
up until the premier of this season, I had thought that it had been an accident, but considering the ominous looks, i was obviously wrong about that
― sarahell, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)
wait waht
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)
I'm ok with never finding out how he poisoned Brock. We don't need a flashback for everything.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)