Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

Every screenwriter I know would be very insulted to be told "you have to put something in about Scarface, have them watching Scarface, the network said they're showing it that week and they want some help."

That's definitely not what I think happened. I figure somebody at AMC went to Gilligan's Island and said "We want to do a 'mob week' programming block sometime during BB Season 5.1. Is there a scene anytime during the season where characters might be watching violent shit on the tv? If so, would you consider making it one of these movies? If not, I will respectfully withdraw, O Profitable One."

How come he didn't watch Mr. Chips in season 1.

Too unrealistic. Nobody willingly watches that movie.

And besides, he starts offing dudes in the first episode. There was no time!

well I gotta be honest I can totally see WmC's version of this scenario happening

so filled with RAGE right nwo

http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk/images/pics/1038ministrynwo.jpg

it was such a "wah-WAHHHH" moment

yeah it was an eye-rolling scene even without the possible tie-in

although the cut to the money-counting machine sounding like gunfire was a little more clever

Walt dandling baby whatsername while watching hyper violent gangster movie: LOOK HE IS EVIL NOW. First misstep so far this season.

well I gotta be honest I can totally see WmC's version of this scenario happening

And Gilligan loves to talk about this stuff ad nauseam, so I fully expect confirmation at the end of S5.2, if not 5.1.

Gilligan talks about the scene a bit here

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/29/breaking-bad-scarface_n_1716848.html

There's that great line that Bryan Cranston ad-libbed that is not in the script for the episode: "Everybody dies in this movie." Who knows if that's foreshadowing or not.

good one Cranston

just abt everytime i read some day after recap or piece like that it reminds me why i shouldnt read them

i dont understand why they exist

my favorite part of those things is the bulleted list of things that happened in the episode

i dont understand why they exist

― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 01:10 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

they perform the exact function of this thread more or less

and at least it keeps the AV club commenters all in one place

whoever the interviewer is raving abt 'what a brill ad-lib etc' is just ¯\(°_o)/¯ 2 me
its a good show, cranstons a good actor but cmon lady

Ya but no one bothers to write 1500-word summaries of each ep on this thread

ilx has the weirdest arguments about breaking bad

ilx has the weirdest arguments about breaking bad

ilx has the weirdest arguments about breaking bad

Heh

or something like that: "oh shit this is my mom's house" or w/e

I bet Mike's mother is fucking terrifying.

Love how just a few months ago Walt wouldn't cook with one solitary fly in the room and now they're doing it in cockroach-infested houses.

loved the apple chomp of victory

i was meaning to ask even before this ep though, does everyone fully buy skyler's wigging out to this extent cos i don't really

like yes she is naive but not that she couldnt have forseen something like that happening, maybe not walt actually doing it but the eventuality of it. and given she's been shown to secretly love the power would she really have this much regard for loss of life if it's that of a drug kingpin who was out to kill her family?

not saying walt hasnt been gross since then but i do feel for him somewhat

There was a point last season when Skylar directly asked Walt "are we in danger?" and Walt said no. Since then, Walt has deliberately hidden everything that happened at the sharp end from Skylar, and she didn't ask any difficult questions and it was convenient for her not to think too hard about it because yay money.

So the first inkling of real danger would have come when the family were suddenly taken into police protection and I'm quite prepared to believe this and then her husband coming home a double-murderer were a genuine shock to her. But only because she was stupid and/or willfully blind.

Even by Walt's standards he's being pretty fucking complacent about his wife cracking up.

Weird that at this stage Walt's the liability and Jesse seems to be the level-headed one.

xp I think also being responsible for Ted being in traction is maybe kinda messing her up too.

loved the apple chomp of victory

i was meaning to ask even before this ep though, does everyone fully buy skyler's wigging out to this extent cos i don't really

like yes she is naive but not that she couldnt have forseen something like that happening, maybe not walt actually doing it but the eventuality of it. and given she's been shown to secretly love the power would she really have this much regard for loss of life if it's that of a drug kingpin who was out to kill her family?

not saying walt hasnt been gross since then but i do feel for him somewhat

― r|t|c, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:17 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i buy that the cumulative effect of all this trauma would be to drive her off the rails

i mean it's driven walt off the rails in a different way

True. What kind of crazy person watches Scarface with an infant?

xxp, yeah, he was Takeshi Kaga'ing the hell up, it was nice

re: Skyler - I think up until recently she's been able to convince herself that as with Walt's original justification, they were being practical about their larceny, but blowing up a nursing home + the Ted thing was just waaaaaay too far for her, i could see moving from abstract money laundering to crippling her ex-lover and murder would push her over the edge

seeing an ex-lover crippled and terrified because of something u did is p fucked up

after the first couple times tho its not so bad

Hilariously that's basically what Walt tells her.

I buy Skyler's wigging out because she's wigging out about Walt being a murdering, creepy, "I forgive you," let me paw at you in bed while you're clearly not interested in even talking to me, terrifying person to be married to. Oh who just moves back in. Basically Skyler is terrified of Walt and powerless to escape him.

a big part of it is guilt at her willing involvement in this whole sordid mess

i feel like they're setting it up for something 2 have her wigging out 2 this extent. im w/ r|t|c, i think they have her too shell shocked & not even able to function anymore idk

walt's cover story to marie in this was super classic A+ assholery, too

skyler could flip is what im thinking

turn states

rat walt out

She'd have to be very sure that she'd be able to do that without turning herself in and leaving Walter Jr heartbroken and baby Holly without a mother though. Wouldn't bet against her taking both kids and as much money as possible and running though.

shed just make a deal, get no time

I don't think prison time is her biggest concern.

did someone say it was

I buy Skyler's wigging out because she's wigging out about Walt being a murdering, creepy, "I forgive you," let me paw at you in bed while you're clearly not interested in even talking to me, terrifying person to be married to. Oh who just moves back in. Basically Skyler is terrified of Walt and powerless to escape him.

― ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:45 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is how i see it too

Incidentally has Brock seen or encountered Walt before? The kid looked pretty fucking suspicious and nervous when Walt was alone with him, but we were never shown the actual poisoning scene so I dunno.

I thought in the premiere it was laid out that Saul had it carried out via proxy (which is a HUGE loose end that's probably gonna come out badly). Brock has probably seen Walt one of the various times he's been at Jesse's house, since they were basically living there since about halfway through S4?

what saul did was get the ricin cigarette from jesse, don't think he had anything to do with brock

Seemed like Walt and Andrea were being introduced for the first time.

I thought the only time they got exposed to walt was when he showed up on their doorstep last season when jesse was freezing walt out and was shutting the door in his face