the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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mccain being a little less of a dick lately
feel free to counter this w/under the radar details of shitty bills he's introduced but in terms of his public profile at least

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

Cheney should stick with how pleased he is that Obama turned out to be a police-state cretin like his wooden Dumbya.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

xp I kind of guess mccain probably still feels strongly on the issue?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 July 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

McCain eventually did sign off on torture so he should fuck right off.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

didn't he cave on signing a torture bill, sometime 2007 or something? i'm not trying to be an asshole but just
xp

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

lol McCain buckled on that bill so that the party wouldn't give his nod to somebody else. he is the saddest story, willing to sell himself out for stuff he ends up not getting

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

My usual caveat that we've argued before: politically, Palin wasn't a dumb pick at that specific moment (the day after Obama's convention speech, weeks before the banking meltdown). Not in terms of maybe one day governing, just in getting McCain back into an election he was losing and in all probability was going to lose no matter what. Which she did, at least as measured by nationwide polling in the weeks after the conventions.

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

tories and bibi seem to be betting against this one

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/07/benjamin-netanyahu-on-israel-mitt-romney

“Israel’s current prime minister is not just a friend, he’s an old friend,” Mitt Romney, with whom Netanyahu worked at the Boston Consulting Group in the 1970s, told AIPAC in March. (Romney, Netanyahu suggests, may have overstated the tie. “I remember him for sure, but I don’t think we had any particular connections,” he tells me. “I knew him and he knew me, I suppose.”)

Netanyahu’s encounters with President Obama have been marked by slights, misunderstandings, mutual suspicion, and downright distaste. One Obama aide says they keep hearing Netanyahu has evolved but have yet to see any signs of it. At home, Netanyahu scores points with his every slight of Obama, to whom the Israelis have never warmed. But Netanyahu insists his relationship with Obama is friendlier than it has been portrayed. They are, he tells me, “two people who appreciate the savviness and strength of the other.”

goole, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

w/ palin this would be the best-looking election in decades

― max, Friday, August 29, 2008 10:05 AM (3 years ago)

ew

― gabbneb, Friday, August 29, 2008 10:08 AM (3 years ago)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

those comments make more sense reversed

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

this is sort of anti-semitic imho

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

kind of a "you're so successful - it must be because your culture loves money as much as I do!" tack there

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

Romney should go into a Witness Protection Program that allows him to step out for a day or two at the beginning of each month, right after each new jobs report. "Economy terrible, vote for me," back into hiding.

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/14/32/44/3254529/3/628x471.jpg

this guy doesn't look like he'll be around much longer to finance any further republican campaigns tbh

Call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Poo-poo-pa-doop. (stevie), Monday, 30 July 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

looks like he's got ten to twenty years more wear imo

steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 July 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

Romney loses key endorsement

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

"I think the fact that he's such an amazing father proves a lot"

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

via Greenwald... Israeli journalist notes Jewish Democratic group attacking Romney from the (neo-con) right:

http://972mag.com/jewish-democrats-attack-romney-from-the-far-right-on-israel/51982/

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

Jonathan Rauch: if you like Ike you should love Obama.

No mention of drone warfare, of course.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Clinton edges out Carter.

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

Romney's "Poland strategy" is a little...esoteric, isn't it?

timellison, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

if we learned anything from george w bush its that we should never forget about poland

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 30 July 2012 22:14 (thirteen years ago)

funny how ppl who swoon over eisenhower's 'pragmatic realism' never mention any of that CIA stuff.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

Has Romney not let loose with a barrage of his favorite Polish jokes yet? He was on such a roll there.

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

Man suspects girlfriend of Facebook affair with Mitt Romney.

East Tennessee is a special sort of place.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

god only knows what he woulda done if he caught her fooling around w/ a black dude

iatee, Monday, 30 July 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

I assume someone made note of this for the debates:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/mitt-romney-israel-health-care.php?ref=fpblg

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

Michael Steele was on TV saying Romney might have to apologize to Palestinians.

timellison, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'm sure this will have been noted on the New Yorker thread, but--even though I hate reading long pieces online--I'm going to make a concerted effort to read this:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/06/120806fa_fact_lizza

To envisage what Republicans would do if they win in November, the person to understand is not necessarily Romney, who has been a policy cipher all his public life. The person to understand is Paul Ryan.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

Michael Steele was on TV saying Romney might have to apologize to Palestinians.

― timellison, Monday, July 30, 2012 8:23 PM (28 minutes ago)

steele really is an enigma, seems like that guy just goes w/ his gut sometimes

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

nah he is an opportunist who isn't actually very good at being an opportunist but that doesn't matter when you are one of 3 black republicans in the country, or at least it didn't for a while. I don't think he has any core political beliefs.

iatee, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

I have this feeling that he's half or partly opportunist but then just can't keep that trait in control.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:16 (thirteen years ago)

ah which I see is similar to what you said. except sub out 'no core political beliefs' for 'actually kinda deeply understands the sins of his party' and 'enjoys novelty poses with young republicans'

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:18 (thirteen years ago)

Saw this earlier tonight:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-david-muir-interview-mitt-romney/story?id=16881787#.UBdE26P5BVY

Go to the 3:00 mark; "So far as I can recall"--Romney's inability to navigate even the most rote kind of political legerdemain consistently surprises me.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)

As he walked back to his vehicle, he ignored reporters’ shouted questions. When a journalist noted that Romney has taken almost no questions from his traveling press corps throughout the foreign trip, Romney spokesman Rick Gorka retorted, “Kiss my ass.”

“This is a holy site for the Polish people,” Gorka said. “Show some respect.”

Moments later, Gorka told another reporter to “shove it.” Gorka later called the reporters to apologize.

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

well this trip is going well

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

stupid question, I guess, but, this was at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Warsaw, right? Is that really a "holy site"? I'm not saying you shouldn't show respect a monument or cemetery or whatever, but is it really considered holy ground?

you're all going to hello (Z S), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

wow the unknown solider kissed someone's ass RIGHT BEFORE HE DIED! show some fin respect

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

perhaps its merely hallowed

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

if you remember from Nixonland, in '72 George McGovern got heckled with "Four more years" and he responded "Kiss my ass."

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

This is pretty funny, whether it's true or not--he's just so weasely:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/07/31/dick_morris_clinton_is_going_to_cast_his_ballot_for_mitt_romney.html

Would love to know which third parties he's been talking to.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

the crazy train is the gravy train

goole, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

that would be less offensive than Dick Morris running Billy Blythe's 1996 campaign

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

nevermind guys Romney didn't say anything about Palestinian culture.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57483302-503544/romney-i-did-not-speak-about-palestinian-culture/

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

"I guarantee you, Sean, based on what I've heard from third parties or I've spoken to, that William Jefferson Clinton cast his ballot for Robert Joseph Dole"

goole, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/Images/romney14.jpg

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

he's holding it like it was a diaper

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

what happened to his lips

keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

Ann Romney defecates on American Flag, Mitt is Proud of it

#RomneyShambles

you're all going to hello (Z S), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Colbert had an interview with a dressage trainer/expert/whatever last night:

Guy being interviewed: "...much like a free-skate in the figure skating."
Colbert: "How do you get the skates on the horse?"
Guy: "We don't..."
Colbert: "The horse does that? I find that hard to believe."

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/colbertage.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)


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