Louie (Louis C.K.'s show on FX)

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eh, look, i'm not losing my shit.
this was just a weak episode in my eyes

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 July 2012 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

black market artisanal pickle place

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johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 July 2012 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that's okay, & sorry 'lose my shit' was hyperbolic. i didn't even think this was an amazing ep. but i think it's super interesting & not lazy & valuable for its direction & doesn't succeed or fail in relation to how amusing it is, i get a lil defensive.

, Blogger (schlump), Saturday, 28 July 2012 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

All ignoring his biggest failing. Russ and daughters open late? Closes at 8 pm. That was not shot in the dead of winter. I'm never watching again.

dan selzer, Saturday, 28 July 2012 01:52 (thirteen years ago)

It's gonna become Seinfeld except instead of obvious lols its gonna have obvious bummers

the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Saturday, 28 July 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

the 'depressive jerry' ep is a classic

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 July 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)

All ignoring his biggest failing. Russ and daughters open late? Closes at 8 pm. That was not shot in the dead of winter. I'm never watching again.
--dan selzer

Lol, I thought this too

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 July 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

I hate how everyone is referring to this as "Manic Pixie Dream Girl"...outside of maaaybe something I once saw in a Woody Allen movie I don't think Parker Posey's character here has anything to do with awful characters like Natalie Portman in Garden State; this was less "self-consciously unique" and more "psychotic and maybe a danger to herself and others"

Xerox of Fate, Saturday, 28 July 2012 05:27 (thirteen years ago)

the piece on the roof w/the female vocals, so good.

You mean...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2KvM2T40RQ

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Saturday, 28 July 2012 05:32 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks for that!

Simon H., Saturday, 28 July 2012 05:39 (thirteen years ago)

No prob. I recognized it right away -- it's on a Best of Blue Note comp I've had forever.

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Saturday, 28 July 2012 05:45 (thirteen years ago)

(And, of course, a great piece of music.)

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Saturday, 28 July 2012 05:46 (thirteen years ago)

I am jazz-ignorant so I had no idea. Not to totally derail, but is there a ton of other jazz that hits that kind of extended, melancholic vibe, with that sort of vocal approach? I'd like more of that in my life.

Simon H., Saturday, 28 July 2012 06:01 (thirteen years ago)

she is manic
and a pixie
and a dream girl

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 July 2012 06:03 (thirteen years ago)

Wait, was that Cristo Redentor? I thought it was a similar-sounding piece.

Amoeba, Fish, Monkey, Shame (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 28 July 2012 06:46 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, just did a comparative listen; v similar style, but not the same piece.

Simon H., Saturday, 28 July 2012 07:16 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, sorry, then.

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Saturday, 28 July 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

no, thanks! that's great, i don't know a lot of donald byrd, this kills. the music for this show is new recordings, so it could be a take on it. i am still frustrated by the slow horn thing i mentioned that recurs throughout this series - it sounds a lil like miles' all blues, i can't quite place it.

, Blogger (schlump), Saturday, 28 July 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

I did think manic pixie...but I also thought back to when I was single and would meet random girls randomly and think they're cute then start talking to them and be like wow, this woman is crazy and wacky and annoying and thinks she's really unique and interesting but really she's just damaged and annoying. Men are like this too of course. I think NY has a lot of people like this. I'm sure they're everywhere, but I'm also sure NY particularly attracts them. It's hard to tell if the PP character is just wacky fun or wacky crazy, definitely walking that edge.

dan selzer, Saturday, 28 July 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I thinks a lot of this pixie business is the energy/physique that PP brings to the role

Darin, Saturday, 28 July 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Renewed btw

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Saturday, 28 July 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

I thought of this as a quite deliberate critique of the "manic pixie dream girl" cliche.

mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Saturday, 28 July 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

yeah we had a pretty decent understanding of why PP was the way she was, and it wasn't solely to shake Louie out of his rut. If anything, this was primarily about PP.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Saturday, 28 July 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

I guess? Just didn't resonate so well. Don't see how this woman is working at a small bookstore.

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

I thought of this as a quite deliberate critique of the "manic pixie dream girl" cliche.

Yeah me too. Also Slate guy on this

In fact, this whole episode could be read as a devastating critique of that troubling Hollywood trope. A certain breed of writer-director likes to imagine a pretty, whimsical, wild girl who will come along and sweep his alter ego off his feet, opening up new worlds of possibility. But C.K. shows that someone with that kind of crazy energy would be exhausting, pushy, and quite possibly deeply troubled.

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

looool at this is not comedy, instead it is like woody allen.

maybe these days when a comedy involves crotch-shots and pie-schtupping then yes, this isn't a comedy, but... ?

/morbs.

s.clover, Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

cinematography in the walk down the sidewalk while she tells her life story is really excellent. also loving just the montage of expressions of bafflement and confusion on louie's face all thru the night.

s.clover, Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

Loved this one. Posey was so dangerous.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

Marlene Dietrich profile shot of posey on the roof is just stunning.

Not only no other show on TV, but probably 95% of films made these days (including indies) aren't this moment-to-moment surprising and engrossing.

s.clover, Saturday, 28 July 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

maybe these days when a comedy involves crotch-shots and pie-schtupping then yes, this isn't a comedy

these days? american pie came out in 1999

Call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Poo-poo-pa-doop. (stevie), Saturday, 28 July 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

that's "these days" to a /morbs

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Saturday, 28 July 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

i liked this ep OK, but I would have liked it more if her name was actually Tape Recorder.

°™ (Pillbox), Saturday, 28 July 2012 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

Just saw this week's. I came into it not really a Parker Posey fan (I reached my fill in the 90s), but her performance was legitimately unsettling. I agree with people itt who say this turned the manic pixie dream girl trope on its head.

Also, I have a fear of heights myself and that whole final scene on the edge of the roof had me whiteknuckling my chair even though I was in absolutely no danger myself. Well done, tv show! Well done.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 July 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)

I think I need to go see Ruby Sparks y'all, my faith in MPDGs is shaken.

Amoeba, Fish, Monkey, Shame (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 29 July 2012 05:45 (thirteen years ago)

Isn't the whole twist of Ruby Sparks that it disassembles the MPDG ideal?

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 July 2012 06:38 (thirteen years ago)

not seeing manic pixie at all, really. not even necessarily in a "sly commentary" sort of way. this felt very true to life, not necessarily from a world of ideas where responding to other sorts of widespread tropes is an issue, or even where such tropes are known and acknowledged, really.

s.clover, Sunday, 29 July 2012 08:10 (thirteen years ago)

this felt very true to life, not necessarily from a world of ideas where responding to other sorts of widespread tropes is an issue, or even where such tropes are known and acknowledged, really.

agreed. her character felt very real.

Call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Poo-poo-pa-doop. (stevie), Sunday, 29 July 2012 08:23 (thirteen years ago)

Isn't the whole twist of Ruby Sparks that it disassembles the MPDG ideal?

Honestly I don't know! I just saw the ad and it looked like the ultimate MPDG movie, assumed it was probably straightahead stuff because it's coming out in America and someone's paying for ad time...

Amoeba, Fish, Monkey, Shame (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 29 July 2012 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

Chortle reporting that he just got a fourth series of 13 episodes

undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 July 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

Renewed btw

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catbus otm (gbx), Sunday, 29 July 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

oops

undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 July 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't seen the new ep yet, internet's been down, so it'll be a few days. I've been loving the new season but it sort of feels like most eps have been designed (intentionally or not) in order to get maximum groupie action when he goes out on tour.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah he's been showing a lot of skin lately

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

what the hell is wrong with you people

Call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Poo-poo-pa-doop. (stevie), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Thank you Adam Bruneau! I love the show, but it should really have the tagline, "Aren't I coming off well, ladies?". This syncs with targeting the primo consumer demographic, eg. 18-35 yr old women

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

cf. my food porn comment above...

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

he didn't come off well in the Melissa Leo episode. you gotta give back, Louie!!

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

but it should really have the tagline, "Aren't I coming off well, ladies?"

^this. I couldn't have said it better myself. On the other hand, most of the irl women I've asked about this show hate him.

Personally, i don't care if it's funny or not. There are plenty of 'funny' shows that are just horribly made, have horrible characters, or simply are not funny. I pretty much wanna watch whatever Louie CK writes and shoots.

I still can't get over Vernon Chatman's involvement. I'm a huge fan of PFFR, Wonder Showzen, and especially Xavier: Renegade Angel, so his involvement as producer is intriguing. I assume he's basically there to help Louie realize his shit, and possibly coming up with little asides and bits here and there to insert. But yeah his presence doesn't seem to be felt too much atm. Maybe this is where the 'Where is the funny?' is coming from.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

On the other hand, most of the irl women I've asked about this show hate him.

this is the opposite of my experience

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

really disappointed in louie for following that all-too-familiar arc of filing the difficult edges off your fx sitcom in a direct play for the wallets of soft-headed mindless consumer chicks who get wet for lucky peach bullshit. fuck this gay earth. hope wilfred stays pure.

planks, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)


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